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Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#21
I’ve had DuckDuckGo as my default search engine on all devices for two+ years now and don’t miss Google at all. On the rare occasion I use the !g bang, I’ve seen a noticeable decline in the quality of results. DuckDuckGo, on the other hand, seems to keep getting better and better. Not affiliated with either. Just a happy user.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#22
This has been a thing since Google did their RankBrain update 5 years ago. They essentially released a system that used ML to negotiate unknown "long-tail" queries into more common queries and then returned the common queries results.

One of the immediate effects was quoted strings became less relevant, sometimes completely ignored, and a lot of the other tools for negotiating with system were lost. It's only continued to progressively get worse since then.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#23
Was noticing the same thing. Asked the librarians I know and it seems like a well known issue in that circle. Being that they are 1) professionals at gathering information and 2) talk to a LOT of people who gather information that they maybe know something about this.

Ask your local librarian, I’d be curious if you get similar feedback.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#24
Trying to not be a pure Google hater here but I can expect a lot of their products will become shittier (in terms of U X) in the next few years. It’s what happens to every web property after they have their insane period of growth. Now in order to continue growing without naturally adding users, they will have to get more $$$ per user. In order to do that, they will need better/more ads. In order to do that the UI/search experience will need to prioritize ads rather than an end user experience. It is not even limited to web properties. Every company lures users in with something really great at the beginning in order to capture the market, and then once the market is captured gradually raise prices to monetize users. Think uber with ridiculously cheap prices at the beginning to get users onto their platforms. In Google’s case ad-free great UIs are the “currency”. Now we’re going to have to sift through more and more garbage to get what we need, and it’s probably going to get worse.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#25
yes, I have to use bing and duckduckgo a lot more than I used to if I actually want a peer reviewed source on something

for everything else, such as a faster search for wikipedia, or cliffnotes about an actor that don't go to any website, it works fine.

the majority of my searches further from that are just finding messages in fast moving chats on Telegram, so that doesn't use Google or any service that is a dedicated search engine.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#26
post #14

Google search over the past 5+ years: result quality getting worse overall; relevant results pushed further and further below ads/sponsored (now on page 2); privacy issues wider and deeper. I recall being amazed at the seeming clairvoyance of their search results up to about 2014. It seems like when they reorganized under Alphabet, the division of responsibility became sharper. Alphabet to Google: you are an _Adverti…

You mean you can't just fix the problem by writing better product requirements - "Google search results shall give me more relevant results."

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#27

I’ve had DuckDuckGo as my default search engine on all devices for two+ years now and don’t miss Google at all. On the rare occasion I use the !g bang, I’ve seen a noticeable decline in the quality of results. DuckDuckGo, on the other hand, seems to keep getting better and better. Not affiliated with either. Just a happy user.

I've replaced the !g bang with the !s bang.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search been worse at finding information lately?

#29
Its been getting worse and it think its inevitable. Over time algorithms can be figured out basically through reverse engineering. These days seo optimization has meant resources is just as important as relevancy

the extent to which google wants to stop this is another matter

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