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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Thankfully, as seen in Russia and India, those thousands of cultures have no wish to be moderated by the self-anointed SV elite.

You should add China to your list of repressive government moderation - would be more complete that way.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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As the catchphrase goes, "The problem with censorship is that " I hope instances like these continue to drive people away from centralised and heavily-censored platforms. Personally, the only thing I do with Twitter is to read when I'm linked there, but now that they've started to block those who don't want to run their arbitrary code just to read some text and images, I have even less desire to use the site.

I would like to coin a new phrase, the "Game Master Dilemma". For any self selecting group the number of people willing to do thankless hard work decreases with respect to the difficulty of the task considerate with the reward.

In tabletop games there's often far fewer players willing to take the Game Master role because it's more difficult. The people that take the role have to really enjoy the task and the "reward" (good feelings because people had fun).

This means there's far more players than Game Masters. I think this applies to everyone making (in my opinion) pithy statements about "centralized platforms". There's vastly more centralized-social-media-platform users than people with the technical capability, time, and money to run some smaller social media instance. The ratio of players to Game Masters is huge. It can be a lot of work/expense to run a board for even a small group of users.

This means that larger more centralized platforms will end up being the norm because they centralize the infrastructure and lower the friction for users to do the interesting stuff like discuss topics or share cat pictures. Because the central platforms are being Game Masters players can flock to the platforms and network effects will draw more users.

If you want some magical world of super decentralized community moderated social media (you basically want mailing lists) you need to solve the Game Master Dilemma. Infrastructure is not free in time or money. The more demands on the infrastructure the more it costs. The only decentralized community moderated platforms that will exist are ones where the Game Master to player ratio is low. The higher it gets the worse of a job it is being the Game Master until it's not worthwhile at all.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #31
post #29

I love the sheer number of hacker news commenters saying “Well I tried it, seems to work”. At what level do you guys go “I’m just going to assume those 10 other guys aren’t lying”

Getting blocked from using Twitter is a productivity hack :)

Deleting your Twitter account is an even better one.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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At what point does it stop being reasonable to donate free content that attracts eyeballs to web hosts addicted to censorship?

I left Twitter after a dozen years and many thousands of followers. You can, too.

Tweeting anything gets you closer to the day Twitter locks your account and destroys all you've built.

You won't even be able to view your follower or following lists at that point (and they're not in your data export), or any of the DMs you've sent or received over all those years.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Penistone and Scunthorpe and now Memphis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZdwX4noCE

As much as I dislike Twitter (I only really use it for work reasons) they are in a no win situation. They either moderate what people post with a flawed system that will never be 100% or be hounded by the "Why won't anyone think of the children" group.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am actually pondering if I should do this to lock my account.

You get it back in 12 hours, so it is not a big deal.

If you break the twitters infinitely vague rules 5 times your account will get banned permanently. So it is a big deal.

Anyone interested in testing the 5 times limit by using the Memphis?

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#178

Reminded of Rachel’s post about requiring confirmation for exceptionally destructive actions ( https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2020/10/26/num/ ).

I don’t know how this relates to the twitter thingy, but it was a useful read, thanks!

A relevant tag: #devops

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be interesting to see Twitter adopt the old "Robot 9000" automod rules, where every tweet would have to be unique from all previous tweets system-wide or else you get a temporary ban that exponentially grows in length after every infraction.

Are you referring to /r9k/ ? There are only 10 pages visible on 4chan, did that rule only apply to visible content or all past content aswell?

/r9k/ was actually modeled after Randall Munroe's open-source "Robot9000" automod bot for one of XKCD's IRC channels (where unoriginal users would be muted for N time, rather than banned).

The original post explaining it is here [1]. I'm not sure whether the 4chan implementation applied to just the 10 visible pages or all past comments.

Fun fact: Twitch also has an r9k mode for chat [2] (that scopes "unique messages" per-chat over a 10-minute rolling window).

[1] https://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-a...

[2] https://twitter.com/twitchsupport/status/382923694864994304?...

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