Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

Post by trav4225 » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 3:24 AM UTC

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I wonder if UBI could be marketed politically in this way, e.g. "Finally paying for all the things you've already been using" or "Finally paying for the free labor you've based your life on" etc. type of messaging. I mean, it should be less guilt-y of course (I'm not in marketing) and somehow capture it's _society_ finally paying for the things generated by free/underpaid labor, not individual citizens, and not imply…

Sadly I think the people who are against UBI now, really don't care about anything like that. If someone is so devoid of empathy that they don't want to provide such a basic financial safety net for people in their own country from living in homelessness/poverty, I don't think they really care about paying people who's work they've used unknowingly.

Post by sneak » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 3:41 AM UTC

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I think perhaps you mean "moral" rather than "ethical". It is entirely ethical to use free software, even to generate massive profits, without paying anyone anything. That's literally the whole point of software freedom: you're free.

Ethical and moral are synonyms. I don't understand the difference you're trying to draw. Definition of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics // ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval // ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct // ethical behavior Definition of moral (Entry 1 of 2) 1a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ETHICAL //…

Post by fastball » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 3:57 AM UTC

michaelmrose wrote: post #147

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The calculus is still not that simple. What if that economic output could've instead been directed towards better education for children, or reducing the use of something which is known to cause cancer in the first place (e.g. coal power plants)? The decision is simple for you, because it's your mom. The decision is not a simple one for a society. We do not yet live in a post-scarcity world. Spending on one thing by…

We create a lot of the scarcity that exists in the states not so we can spend more on enriching society but so we can enrich a minority at the expense of society. Your argument is only sound in the hypothetical case.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 4:10 AM UTC

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Ethical and moral are synonyms. I don't understand the difference you're trying to draw. Definition of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics // ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval // ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct // ethical behavior Definition of moral (Entry 1 of 2) 1a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior : ETHICAL //…

This is absolutely not correct. Morals are subjective, whereas ethics is a field of study that exists specifically to provide objective frameworks.

Post by iamtedd » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 4:49 AM UTC

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Presumably Jon Postel, who co-authored many RFCs foundational to the internet such as TCP, IP and DNS. As a single person he was very involved in the internet's architecture.

Today, the "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" refers to an organization. But for many years it didn't refer to an organization, it was Jon Postel's title.