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Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by ab_testing »

donmcronald wrote: post #96
renewiltord wrote: post #80

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Significantly damages your brand to do this and you'll defacto turn into a consulting company. Plus places incentives on your org to force things to be incidents since that's what pays. You'll get stuck in a local minimum of being a small-time consulting company. Or maybe you won't. But that's the reason I wouldn't want to do it. Besides, there's no way you can only access the no-support users. Google, for instance,…

I deal with a lot of small businesses and to me it feels like that entire sector of the industry is being abandoned. Most small businesses owners are practical and will pay for things when they need them, but they're fairly price sensitive and they expect good value for their money. Take MS365 as an example. Most small businesses I deal with would be way better off with Exchange than with their current shared hosting…

I think you answered your question right there. Microsoft does not want the business of a company where 50 mailboxes cost $60 for the whole year. They are happy to leave that market to other lower cost providers

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by Swizec »

alisonkisk wrote: post #120
Swizec wrote: post #73

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You’d be surprised. Those users come from sales more than self serve. Very different business model.

Who is going to buy your high touch sales offer if they see no one uses your product? Is this a thing where all the YC companies buy each other's stuff to prop up the revenue numbers until IPO?

Have you tried buying from salesforce? Very high touch, very expensive, very unfit for small businesses, hugely successful and widely used.

Different audiences, different approaches.

Many successful businesses are such that none of us have ever heard of, but are making millions, sometimes billions. We haven’t heard of them because we’re not the target market and talking to us is a waste of resources.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by andrenotgiant »

tthun wrote: post #134
tylermenezes wrote: post #110

I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…

Try force.com (fully featured developer account is free with limits), very stable and fully featured PaaS with long tail of features. On a quick review Airtable as a slick/modern UX on less sound architecture than force.com, probably shipping features in a breakneck pace.

salesforce.com? can't tell if you're making a joke, recommending SalesForce, or there's another company called force with a different TLD.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by presentation »

sequoia wrote: post #127
bram2w wrote: post #17

Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…

> € 4,00 per user / month In the USA and I think all English speaking places we use dot rather than comma to separate decimals from whole number, and comma for thousands, millions etc. So at a glance (before looking closely) this looks like four thousand euros per user per month. I looked a second time and realized that was incorrect but consider fixing for EN- 4K/user/mo is quite shocking to read! :)

better use the user's browser locale + Intl to format the currency for you :)

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by toyg »

dbrereton wrote: post #38

There's an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products. Most recent one that comes to mind is Athens [0] which is an open source clone of Roam Research. The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. [0] https://github.com/athensresearch/athens

> an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products

Well, it's a "trend" as old as dirt, really. The "Linux desktop" was, for years, little more than a series of clones of closed-source Windows apps. Arguably even the original GNU programs started as clones of existing Unix tools. It's unsurprising that this would later happen for web-based services too.

> The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting.

Again, pretty old news - Wordpress is almost 20 years old at this point.

The problem of this setup, though, is that the commercial version will typically set the roadmap and priorities, while the open version will end up lagging.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by viraptor »

mikkom wrote: post #51
travisjungroth wrote: post #49

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I wonder if there’s a business model of paid hosting of other companies open source alternatives...

You mean AWS?

AWS is a few layers below that service. You can't tell AWS "give me a domain with baserow installed". Or at least not without going through the layers of describing how it's mapped to actual compute resources and how is deployed.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Post by tthun »

andrenotgiant wrote: post #143
tthun wrote: post #134

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Try force.com (fully featured developer account is free with limits), very stable and fully featured PaaS with long tail of features. On a quick review Airtable as a slick/modern UX on less sound architecture than force.com, probably shipping features in a breakneck pace.

salesforce.com? can't tell if you're making a joke, recommending SalesForce, or there's another company called force with a different TLD.

Not a Joke. I am recommending Salesforce.com's PaaS offering (used to licensed as force.com, now called "platform" [0]). Expensive, but it is IMHO the best low code cloud platform there is that has got every aspect (Apps, Identity, Security, ACLs, Workflows and Triggers, APIs) right.

[0] https://www.salesforce.com/editions-pricing/platform/

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