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Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…

Any plan for proper mobile support? Couldn't find a ticket on GitLab.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Price discrimination is a hard problem! There's a conflict between soaking your customers for as much as they're willing to pay, and making your product accessible to customers that won't pay that much. Finding a feature set that the first set of customers absolutely needs and will pay extra for, but the second set can live without, is hard.

The problem is that pricing is expected to be the opposite of what it really should be. Companies with 10k users expect a discount, but the reality is they should be paying a lot more because building a product to serve 10k users is much harder than building a product to serve 10 users. On the flipside, why should I, as a small user, share in the cost of things like scalability, HA, SLAs, etc.? I don't need those thi…

Is it 1000x times harder to server 10K users?

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #109

There's an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products. Most recent one that comes to mind is Athens [0] which is an open source clone of Roam Research. The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. [0] https://github.com/athensresearch/athens

I'm reminded of Jonathan Blow's rant about open source software at the beginning of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLVjSeusPYg

That video's oddly edited; is there some context which makes him seem less... nuts?

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #109

There's an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products. Most recent one that comes to mind is Athens [0] which is an open source clone of Roam Research. The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. [0] https://github.com/athensresearch/athens

I'm reminded of Jonathan Blow's rant about open source software at the beginning of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLVjSeusPYg

Blow is a great programmer but his criticism makes no sense to me. "It's elitist and undemocratic that someone gets to decide whether they want to ship you code". what??

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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This is very cool. I love airtable and I'm pretty sure I will install Baserow soon just to try it out. Shameless plug: I just did a quick blog post listing that kind of products open source alternatives: https://www.juliendesrosiers.com/2021/03/13/open-source-self... It's becoming more common these days to see serious businesses go open source from the start and gaining significant traction. Like Plausible, Gitlab, B…

Plausible looks way too simple to be GA alternative.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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What is the market for that? What can it do that good ol excel cannot (or, if so really desired, ms access)

I really never like selling my data to third parties. I usually don't consider using online services unless there's absolutely no good alternatives.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #17

Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…

> € 4,00 per user / month

In the USA and I think all English speaking places we use dot rather than comma to separate decimals from whole number, and comma for thousands, millions etc. So at a glance (before looking closely) this looks like four thousand euros per user per month. I looked a second time and realized that was incorrect but consider fixing for EN- 4K/user/mo is quite shocking to read! :)

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…

I agree that Airtable is expensive, but I've found their custom app development experience to be quite nice.

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this the PaaS model?

Sort of but not really. On thinking about it some more for the average user, you'd really want to sell a ready-to-go unit so they don't even have to deal with the initial computer setup and platform download/install because I know that's still way more than a lot of people would want to do or feel comfortable doing. They want something that they own, with good privacy, that just works, and is maintenance free. I imag…

Such a system would be considerably preferable over cloud for things like backup of your phone files and photos (bandwidth), direct sharing of voluminous files (bandwith, no need to wait for upload to complete), videoconferencing (latency)

Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative

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post #67

There's an interesting trend of open source clones of popular products. Most recent one that comes to mind is Athens [0] which is an open source clone of Roam Research. The business model is always that people who really want it for free can self host, and people who don't want to deal with the hassle will pay for hosting. Seems like a reasonable strategy to me. [0] https://github.com/athensresearch/athens

I wasn't aware of Athens, thanks! There's also Logseq: https://github.com/logseq/logseq and a few others, but I forgot their names.

More info on Athens and alternatives in this discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26316793
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