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Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by winfred »

duncan-donuts wrote: post #49
winfred wrote: post #31

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The way I see it, we already have that world, with capitalism functioning as a filter. I worked my ass off to reach financial independence, now I'm dedicating the rest of my life towards helping other people. I've proven to be capable of using the system to a degree where I can do whatever I want, which allows me the freedom to help other people full time. It's not a perfect system, but I doubt UBI will be much bette…

Why should any single person carry the weight of the person in desperate need? UBI + healthcare implies that there’s a social safety net that creates an entire network of people to carry this weight. I don’t have a clue if any implementations would successfully do this but to just throw people in desperate need to the wolves is inhumane.

I don't think people would prosper under such a system. Free health care, yes, free education, yes. Retirement for all, take care of the disabled, yes.

But in my opinion, in today's society, if you take away the need for people to struggle (which UBI will do) they often end up in a worse mental and physical shape than if you make them suffer a bit. Just the way natural selection programmed us. "All basic needs are met I can imagine a educational system where we prepare our children from childhood for UBI and it will work.

But given how rudimentary most education still is I don't see that happen anytime soon. Maybe in 100 years.

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Post by rjsw »

numbsafari wrote: post #19
aeturnum wrote: post #9

This is a sad reminder of the masses of invisible labor (unpaid and paid) that hold up our world. Social scientists have been studying how labor becomes visible (or invisible) for a while without finding obvious solutions to "the situation." How can we build a world where an infinite procession specialists like Roy can get the care they need and also find and train successors in their important work? Not just because…

Is there anything like an “Open Source Hall of Fame”, for recognizing and remembering significant contributors? It’s not perfect, but perhaps it is a way to at least preserve the memory and the history.

NetBSD has dedicated particular releases to developers who died.

Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by moehm »

pjc50 wrote: post #39
KennyFromIT wrote: post #3

Messages like these are so sad to read. The world will never realize how many people are working tirelessly behind the scenes to keep society moving forward. Cheers to all of the silent (and sometimes not so silent) people that continue to give of themselves to make this world a more wonderful place in their own little way. You all are awesome and we literally couldn't go on with our way of life without you.

I call this "Postel decentralisation": everyone thinks there's some kind of system or institution making everything work, but in fact there's just a guy doing it all on his own.

> but in fact there's just a guy doing it all on his own

"Sometimes magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect." -Teller

Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by LukeShu »

sterlind wrote: post #98
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #89

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What does "Postel" refer to?

Presumably Jon Postel, who co-authored many RFCs foundational to the internet such as TCP, IP and DNS. As a single person he was very involved in the internet's architecture.

Today, the "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" refers to an organization. But for many years it didn't refer to an organization, it was Jon Postel's title.

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Post by derefr »

smhost wrote: post #93
pjc50 wrote: post #39

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I call this "Postel decentralisation": everyone thinks there's some kind of system or institution making everything work, but in fact there's just a guy doing it all on his own.

i mean, even within institutions, it's usually just some person hacking away behind the scene. what else would it be?

A rulebook that says who should be hacking away when, and how/when/from where to get and/or produce more of those people. That long-lived superstructure is what NASA calls a "mission." It's what ensures someone will still be around (with the right expertise, budget, connections, and tools) to fix a satellite when it breaks 50 years later.

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Post by throwaway2048 »

souprock wrote: post #109
chrisbennet wrote: post #75

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As opposed to insurance companies determining who would die?

It really is different. The existence of unlimited pay-as-you-go care means that you could possibly raise the funds. In systems where all care is state-administered and an attempt to pay for more care would be criminalized as bribery, you'll die of a treatable disease if some bureaucrat decides that the treatment isn't cost effective for a person like you. The details of choices vary, but go something like this: "tre…

So you just die if you cant afford insurance instead.

What an improvement.

Plenty of countries have both a public and private insurance options.

Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

ronnier wrote: post #95
magnetic wrote: post #43

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Do you need a PayPal account or is there a "take my credit card and check out as guest" option somewhere?

Not sure. I already had an account.

It just keeps spinning for me, so I signed into paypal, but I can't look him up by his username. Does anyone have his email?

I've been using his software for decades, and I'd really like to thank him and support his family. I remember how much better of an experience it was to use dhcpcd rather than pump. He made my life better without realizing it.

Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by jimkleiber »

wslack wrote: post #94
KennyFromIT wrote: post #3

Messages like these are so sad to read. The world will never realize how many people are working tirelessly behind the scenes to keep society moving forward. Cheers to all of the silent (and sometimes not so silent) people that continue to give of themselves to make this world a more wonderful place in their own little way. You all are awesome and we literally couldn't go on with our way of life without you.

Nadia Eghbal's work and writing about this subject was eye opening for me.

I heard her on a podcast[1] talking about her book Work in Public[2] and loved it, is that the work and writing you're referencing?

If not, are there other pieces you'd recommend?

[1]: https://a16z.com/2020/08/01/working-in-public-communities-op... [2]: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578675862/

Re: Dhcpcd Will Need a New Maintainer

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Post by jimkleiber »

4ec0755f5522 wrote: post #110
sjtindell wrote: post #24

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Just in my personal opinion, things like a UBI move us towards that world. It wound allow people flexibility.

I wonder if UBI could be marketed politically in this way, e.g. "Finally paying for all the things you've already been using" or "Finally paying for the free labor you've based your life on" etc. type of messaging. I mean, it should be less guilt-y of course (I'm not in marketing) and somehow capture it's _society_ finally paying for the things generated by free/underpaid labor, not individual citizens, and not imply…

I love this! This thread got me thinking that nurturing/feeding/raising a child could be seen as something a parent does not just for their family but for society, and if it were for society, is it now a paid job that requires minimum wage? And all of the other things that are "volunteer labor" but for corporations, which technically in the US one can't very legally volunteer for a for-profit company without compensation.

I like the spin on seeing this from a new marketing angle, new framing.

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