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Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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mutability in Haskell? I thought Haskell was purely functional i.e. lazy and immutablility are foundational. Can someone clarify please?

That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic parallelism with shared state (the `Par` monad) and so on.

Just remember: in Haskell, persistent and immutable is the default. You turn on other environments as you need them.

Why is it the default? So-called "purely functional" programming is a rich, safe, environment for most programming problems, and makes lots of nice things possible, such as trivial parallelization, automatic thread safety, proofs on code via simple equational reasoning, and powerful optimizations.

Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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mutability in Haskell? I thought Haskell was purely functional i.e. lazy and immutablility are foundational. Can someone clarify please?

That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic p…

Too bad they made lazy the default.

Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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mutability in Haskell? I thought Haskell was purely functional i.e. lazy and immutablility are foundational. Can someone clarify please?

That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic p…

Thank you for a thorough overview.

Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic p…

Too bad they made lazy the default.

care to elaborate?

Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic p…

Too bad they made lazy the default.

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Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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Too bad they made lazy the default.

care to elaborate?

Haskell is the only widely used language that uses lazy evaluation by default. This has historically lead to confusion and difficulties with reasoning about time and space, particularly when a programmer is coming from a strict language.

Why do we care about laziness by default? Like purity, it adds power and expressiveness.

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Finally, what would a strict Haskell be like? Here's a discussion: http://augustss.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-points-for-lazy-ev... )

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That's the default. There are, however, many other interesting computational environments you might want to use, which Haskell let's you enable: controlled, strict evaluation (the use of seq and rnf); local mutable state (the `ST` monad); mutable state with transactions and rollbacks (the `STM` monad); arbitrary effects on the world (the `IO` monad); computations with backtracking (the `Logic` monad); deterministic p…

Too bad they made lazy the default.

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Re: Hashtables, a new Haskell library for fast mutable hash tables

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Too bad they made lazy the default.

care to elaborate?

Space leaks.

Also, unpredictable program behavior (which nearly destroys its usefulness in embedded beyond what perhaps Galois has been doing).

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