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Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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I hold, transfer and pay with crypto a lot. To save a lot of fees, have additional security and because it is simply comfortable and fast. Smart contracts allow that i can swap any currency to any other withoit kyc or even registering. I can move USD from ETH to Tron and so on within seconds for a low fee. Cashing out to IRL money is simpler and faster than even paypal or paysafe for example. Even if the crypto marke…

do you mind telling me, how you cash out USD without giving anyone your name :)?

IRS has entered the chat.

Also, transaction fees seem pretty high. Maybe I’ve just been spoiled by cheap insecure transactions.

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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I have been keeping up with the developments in the crypto space from the outside for the past few years. Never really invested in any currency as it always felt too risky / speculative for my taste. It wasn't until last year with the upcoming of DeFi (Decentralized Finance) that I decided to get involved somehow, instead of just watching innovation happen. I also think this really has a lot of potential. So I starte…

Impressive!

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Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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I have been keeping up with the developments in the crypto space from the outside for the past few years. Never really invested in any currency as it always felt too risky / speculative for my taste. It wasn't until last year with the upcoming of DeFi (Decentralized Finance) that I decided to get involved somehow, instead of just watching innovation happen. I also think this really has a lot of potential. So I starte…

Amazing, love this idea!

Thanks man!

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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I think this is guaranteed. As long as one person keeps running the old software, the old chain is alive. Even if nobody does it, somebody could start running it again at any time. The different chains will have different market caps. And the general public will forget about chains that have sufficiently small market caps. I wonder what will happen to Ether that is in custody. Like in the Greyscale Ethereum Trust or…

False, the difficulty bomb will kill off eth1.

> the difficulty bomb will kill off eth1

Wouldn’t it make sense for miners to switch to a new Ethereum chain without the bomb?

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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Tbh, I don't get your analogy, why should the miners be looked at as bodyguards? While I agree the miners are responsible for protecting the network, I don't think you can draw a distinction that easily between an eth holder vs a miner, because anyone can become a miner and anyone can become a holder and an entity can be both a miner and a holder. Everyone who participates in the eth network should have the power to…

Miners aren't stakeholders, they are hired to do one job and have no right to get any input. They're already coddled in ethereum. Everyone who actually is a stakeholder wants PoS. Ultimately eth buyers decide everything, as all money flows from them. Miners just mine what's profitable at the moment.

The only thing eth buyers (and sellers) are deciding is price. The connections between price and protocol are indirect and often complex, tenuous.

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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I'm one of the maintainers of one of the implementations of eth2 live today ( https://github.com/prysmaticlabs/prysm ) and can help offer more context on this. Ethereum proof of stake has been live since December 1st and it currently secures over 6 billion USD worth of value https://beaconcha.in/ . Currently, this is a chain that lives in parallel to the proof of work chain we know as Ethereum today. The idea is that…

Question: Will there be a chain split - will we end up with 'ETH classic' and 'ETH proof of stake' after the upgrade or how does it work?

Nope, wont happen. https://medium.com/dragonfly-research/ethereum-is-now-unfork...

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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There are many people who understand Ethereum and the larger blockchain / cryptocurrency ecosystem. I have made my career and wealth in this space. What you won’t find are tons of people like me on Hacker News. This website has a toxic reputation in the crypto world given its intensely negative attitude towards this industry. I love HN. Probably the website I check most. But I have tried so hard to understand why the…

Same here. Crypto literally is the best thing that happened carrier wise to my life. From the wild wild west in the early days that allowed anyone to make some beermoney then (and be rich today if they holded) to the immense community we have today that turn simple products/dapps/whatever into millions strong businesses over night. Crypto is exactly the movement to give power back to the people (for a while at least)…

The issue is that exact story is “get rich quick”. A good predictor on how jaded you are towards your reaction to it is “did you get rich?”

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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There is a well-thought out and well-designed process for all stages of this. You can read up on that on the https://ethereum.org/en/eth2/

Been poking around for a while but did not find the part where it explains how ETH moves from the old chain to the new prior to the merge. Do you know where it is described?

It involves something called the staking deposit contract:

https://ethereum.org/en/eth2/staking/

https://launchpad.ethereum.org/overview/

Picking any active validator on the Beacon Chain, we can see that there is an Eth1 deposit and a corresponding Eth2 deposit:

https://beaconcha.in/validator/91676#deposits

https://beaconscan.com/validator/91676#deposits

If you're interested in the technical details, see:

https://github.com/ethereum/eth2.0-specs/tree/dev/specs/phas...

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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You send your ETH to a specific contract, from which it can't be moved (whether you want to call that "burning" is up to you, but it's probably a bit confusing). Each validator must also run an Eth full node, and uses the state of that contract to determine who can act as a validator on the Beacon chain.

Are there any plans to do staking Polkadot/Cardano style? I'd like to stake my ETH but have no interest in running a full validator

Already possible

Re: Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack

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As an ETH user and holder (and former miner), I want Ethereum 2.0. Describing it as a fork is ridiculous. Proof of stake is the future and miners have known that for years. Proof of work is a dead end that ends with a Dyson sphere harvesting all power from the sun to process a few transactions. If miners want to make another Ethereum Classic dead chain let them do so. The innovation, the users, and all the developers…

ETH is a fork, ETC was the original chain. ETH 2.0 is a proposed fork. Describing things accurately should be the norm.

Did Ethereum never have breaking updates before the ETC split? If no, it’s pretty disingenious to describe ETC as the “original” chain.
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