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How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by cmdshiftf4 »

lhorie wrote: post #62
cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #40

>This is something torontonians have gotten over ages ago. Bad example. Canada is a globalist punching bag and their behaviour isn't indicative of a country that has grown but one that has merely submitted. I lived in Toronto for a couple of years and even at that point most of the people I met who were born and bred there were hauling ass out of the city to places like Barrie, Burlington or other provinces entirely.…

I lived in Toronto for well over a decade. Perhaps this is a irreconcilable difference of opinion, but what you call a "globalist punching bag" is also affectionately called a melting pot. What you call a manufactured husk is also called diverse vibrant city. Beauty is in eye of the beholder, I guess. Toronto has one of the best culinary scenes I've ever seen, and a lot of character if you know where to look ("little…

>what you call a "globalist punching bag" is also affectionately called a melting pot.

Toronto is explicitly not a melting pot. Trudeau and others have been explicit in describing Canada (and Toronto) as being a mosaic of cultures, or a patchwork, or quilt, and not the melting pot that America touts itself to be.

Canada's migration policies are one facet of my labelling it a globalist punching bag, among many, but certainly not isolated to it and mainly due to the motivations behind it.

The rest of your post is literal memes and shallow accusations of racism and as such isn't worth addressing.

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by lotsofpulp »

twaybtclong wrote: post #76
blueline wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so mexican people are bad because some guy wrote a book about a town where some mexican people sell drugs? very scientific, thank you Hacker News

They setup an entire heroin network of Domino's like franchises spanning the US. Starting in LA, ultimately spreading all over the country by the early 2000s. The heroin resurgence came on the back of enterprising Mexicans who took advantage of loose sentencing of small amounts and rampant Oxy addicts looking for alternatives. > In two years, from 1995 to 1997, Boise’s minor market had a half-dozen crews selling hero…

> The heroin resurgence came on the back of enterprising Mexicans who took advantage of loose sentencing of small amounts and rampant Oxy addicts looking for alternatives.

Did anything bad ever come on the backs of enterprising Americans?

Is there any purpose of your comment other than to indict an entire country of people for the actions of a few?

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by Mauricebranagh »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #6
throwaway713 wrote: post #3

I don’t know anything about Indian culture; could someone who is from there shed some light on how prevalent the prejudiced mindset is? E.g., do 80% of people think the caste system is stupid and outdated whereas the other 20% still hold some prejudice toward Dalits? What about Indians that have moved to the U.S.? And is this issue improving quickly or slowly?

I have a reasonable suspicion that people who have benefited from the caste system previously, will be favourable towards it still. What I'm curious about is, do they go OTT with it? I know for my country folk, something about moving overseas seems to compel us to wear All Black paraphernalia far more than we do home, and also, the drunken 3am hakas outside a kebab shop, far more commonly encountered overseas than in…

You can see this in the UK "community elders" will deny it but there are some nasty issues particularly untouchables.

I know one of the MP's that helped add caste discrimination to the UK's legal system - this probably ought to be added to the US laws as well.

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by Mauricebranagh »

bluGill wrote: post #60
presentation wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my friends had a story, where he was conducting a job interview with an American-born Indian teammate, and the interviewee was an Indian; when the interviewee went to the bathroom, she offhand guessed at the interviewee's caste, and then immediately felt mortified that she said that to a non-Indian and apologized. Just hearing that story secondhand was pretty wild for me to process!

In the US that is illegal, your friend should have immediately reported it to HR.

Not totally sure that "Caste" is a protected thing.

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by 0goel0 »

doggodaddo78 wrote: post #4

Who's worked with Brahmin IITians, raise a paw? :paw emoji here: I hope the Valley absorbs all of the world's horrible tech sociological antipatterns because I ejected from that heap. Transient gold miners descended on the place where I grew up, treated it disposably, and failed to make any effort to integrate because they're just visiting to make their coin. Sunnyvale Costco is like an airport in Burma (okay, Myanma…

Funny how no one says the same about people from France or Australia..

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by shmde »

> "To fill those slots, universities sometimes offer seats to students with test scores below the cutoff point—though not as far below as is commonly assumed".

General cutoff in 2015 ( my batch ) = 105 marks out of 360

Sc/st/marginalised group cutoff marks = 52.5 marks out of 360.

Its literally cut to half and the author says its NOT as far below as is commonly assumed.

There is still more to it. You would think that it benefits the SC/ST/marginalised group but the truth is the entrance exam is so tough that unless you are quite well to do to go to a coaching institute you wouldnt even crack it. The main benefit of the caste system in entrance test doesnt go to the poor rural area kids who come from lower caste but the kids from metro cities who are already pretty rich go to the big schools have a very good formal education and fortunately have a SC/ST/Caste card to present during exams.

It feels like shit when you work and toil as hard as your dads colleague's son ( both of us have gone to the same school since we were kids, both of our dads earn the exact same ) and still end up in a bad college whereas the other kid with SC/ST/Quota card goes to a very good govt college.

I scored a decent 140/360 and still got a worse rank and worse college than my friend who scored 100/360.

I am all up for quota students who come from rural villages and dont have a good economic background but in reality its the rich metro sc/st/ kids who were already as privelaged as me who get it easy.

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by 0goel0 »

gherkinnn wrote: post #61
doggodaddo78 wrote: post #4

Who's worked with Brahmin IITians, raise a paw? :paw emoji here: I hope the Valley absorbs all of the world's horrible tech sociological antipatterns because I ejected from that heap. Transient gold miners descended on the place where I grew up, treated it disposably, and failed to make any effort to integrate because they're just visiting to make their coin. Sunnyvale Costco is like an airport in Burma (okay, Myanma…

> Transient gold miners descended on the place where I grew up, treated it disposably, and failed to make any effort to integrate because they're just visiting to make their coin. You've just described a large amount of tech expats, no matter where they're from or what they're mining.

Gold miners is the literal history of California.

The fact of the matter is that OP's comment is good old-fashioned racism wrapped in fancy words to harness HN votes.

Re: How Big Tech Is Importing India’s Caste Legacy to Silicon Valley

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Post by legolas2412 »

gumby wrote: post #55
marcinzm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>failed to make any effort to integrate because they're just visiting to make their coin I mean, have you seen the waiting times for Indian US green cards? You may literally die of old age before getting through the queue right now. The system is structured to make them disposable temporary workers and not future American citizens. So why is it surprising that they act like it?

My cousin reminded me the other day that back in the 80s I was introduced by innumerable mums as “attends MIT and has a green card”. Literally that was my entire “biography”. Edit: seems like thing have diverged since I had to worry about these things: The waiting time for non-Indian green cards is the same btw.

For eb2 and eb3 visas, For chinese and mexicans it's similar. For everyone else, no.
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