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Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

#201

What I really want, though, is Mac-style character-entry in Linux. It's so much easier to type accented characters in Mac.

not true, had this for decade, never grew on me bc it's just unintuitive. US International keymap on demand on Windows is far superior

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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post #94

On a slightly related note: does anyone else map caps lock to control (and vice-versa)? I’ve never really understood why caps lock gets a huge key in the middle of the keyboard, while control gets a regular-sized key at the bottom. Generally speaking, caps lock is used much less than control.

I map it to escape. I find using the caps lock key as a modifier to be too awkward, I prefer the position of the control key for that. Escape being all the way up at the top left is much more of an inconvenience. I don’t remap the original escape key to caps lock, though, I have xkb set to trigger caps lock by pressing both shift keys.

or just put both esc and ctrl to caps lock, which got common in the kb community for a few years

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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post #94

On a slightly related note: does anyone else map caps lock to control (and vice-versa)? I’ve never really understood why caps lock gets a huge key in the middle of the keyboard, while control gets a regular-sized key at the bottom. Generally speaking, caps lock is used much less than control.

Capslock is dual-role for me, tap for Enter, hold for acting like a custom modifier. Shift is tap for escape, hold for normal shift, tilde is backspace, my pinky gets busy. The best Ctrl replacement is spacebar, the only windows program that does it flawlessy is touchcursor

i had space when pressed remapped with ahk but couldn't get it to work reliably typing above 80wpm, how is it with touch cursor?

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched from Windows to Apple around 2010, after using Windows 7 for a year, and away from Apple a year or two ago, after Mountain Lion. With Windows and Mac both, it wasn't any one thing in particular, just a "death by a thousand cuts", so to speak, of a general feeling of the platform changing shape without me having any say in it, without any bi-directional feedback, just changing at someone else's whim, and ha…

> Sure, there's a whole slew of crap being grafted onto it like systemd, Wayland, Chromium, etc... But... you don't have to use any of this (in fact, I can't even use Wayland at all, even if I wanted to [because of Nvidia])

That,s almost word for word the next sentence in my comment.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

#205
post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched from Windows to Apple around 2010, after using Windows 7 for a year, and away from Apple a year or two ago, after Mountain Lion. With Windows and Mac both, it wasn't any one thing in particular, just a "death by a thousand cuts", so to speak, of a general feeling of the platform changing shape without me having any say in it, without any bi-directional feedback, just changing at someone else's whim, and ha…

> Mac GNU There’s no such thing as "Mac GNU", since the userland and outermost kernel interface is of BSD lignage. Which does a double whammy on the "GNU/Linux" pedantry, since the Linux-based system described above has only a very limited part of it that are actual GNU projects, or even GPL licensed. That is, unless I’m mistaken and parent uses a system without Xorg, and only lives with bash, glibc, make, GCC, coreu…

You call it pedantry while writing a three-paragraph comment about why the term I used out of convenience and habit is not precisely correct. Bravo!

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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post #65

This is great, btw. Kinto is 100% a sanity saver. Please note the following rant is mostly tongue-in-cheek. 'cuz it turns out, I personally hate how Windows and Linux do things with `ctrl`. Coming from a Mac, my biggest and most consistent annoyance is that the `ctrl` key is fucking useless at best... One of the most common use cases for the `ctrl` key is COPYING shit and followed by PASTING shit and it DOES NOT WORK…

I'm having difficulty parsing your rant. I can't tell if we agree or not. :) Ctrl+C is a method of generating a standard ASCII character which has meant "ETX" (end of text, sometimes "interrupt") for many decades. Other control chars are useful too. In addition to C, I use S, Q, D, Z, V, O, N, I, G, H, M, L, J, Y, A, E, K, W ... probably others ... fairly regularly. So in the early 1980s, along comes MacOS which need…

>Microsoft says "eh, who cares let's break it all", and reuses Ctrl+C for copy.

It wasn't Microsoft though. Common GUI hotkeys like Ctrl+Z/X/C/V/P were introduced in Xerox Alto first, and everybody else used this as a convention, including Microsoft.

I'm not sure what hotkeys Alto Executive used, and whether there was a mnemonic conflict at all.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

#207

My theory is that Apple purposefully switched alt and control around to create a sort of usability trap; everytime a mac-user ever touches a different brand pc, their experience is filled with frustrations, making sure they'll never switch away. Of course the fact that every mac since needs an apple-certified keyboard is 'just a happy (very profitable) coincidence' for apple. Disguising this move under the banner of…

If you think OSX is user hostile because of intentional vendor-specific keyboard keys, note that Windows computers have a “Windows” key. Is that an international standard?

I think most commercial keyboards (just about all laptops) are terrible and If there really are international keyboard standards, they’re not great design. I personally think all keyboard layouts are ultimately wrong because the underused caps lock is in prime real estate and should be replaced by the CTRL key (check out the ADM-3). As for Macs requiring a certified keyboard, that’s just plain wrong.

The ultimate gripes come down to key placement and window manager shortcuts, both of which can be modified on either OS.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

#208

Does this do more than remap copy/paste keys? Nothing wrong with just doing that, but I was a bit confused from the leading examples. Needless addition that nobody asked for: Having recently switched to Ubuntu from MacOS as my primary development environment, I very much felt the pain of losing many keyboard shortcuts I had grown accustomed to (amongst other subtle things, like the really good default PDF viewer in M…

Jetbrains is supported by Kinto & the remap is better than their macOS remap layout. Leave it on their default layout & Kinto will remap it 100% to what you’d expect.

The hotkeys in the drop downs will not always line up - but that’s the price for this implementation.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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post #143

Moved to Win after a decade on a Mac, this doesn't make sense, most Mac keys are not much better and you are just used to it, rather install AHK, something which no other platform has, and remap keys in a sane way.

Kinto uses AHK on Windows already - it just does an insane level of remapping for you out of the box.

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Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

#210
post #94

On a slightly related note: does anyone else map caps lock to control (and vice-versa)? I’ve never really understood why caps lock gets a huge key in the middle of the keyboard, while control gets a regular-sized key at the bottom. Generally speaking, caps lock is used much less than control.

I map it to escape. I find using the caps lock key as a modifier to be too awkward, I prefer the position of the control key for that. Escape being all the way up at the top left is much more of an inconvenience. I don’t remap the original escape key to caps lock, though, I have xkb set to trigger caps lock by pressing both shift keys.

As a Vim user, Esc is quite common, but I still end up straining my hand more when reaching for control. Remapping control has helped me a lot with that.

If strain wasn’t an issue, Esc would be my next choice.

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