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Re: Algorithms don't cause filter bubbles, people do

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Post by cafard »

Our household subscribes to The Washington Post and The New York Times. If the radio is on, it is tuned to NPR.

I have relatives who do not get a print paper, but tend to read the The New York Post and The Washington Examiner on-line. The watch Fox News and at some point probably listened to Rush Limbaugh.

Do we get rather different views of what is going on? I can't see how we could not. Did an algorithm have anything to do with this? You would have to dramatically stretch the sense of "algorithm" to say so.

Re: Algorithms don't cause filter bubbles, people do

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Post by sleepysysadmin »

simmerup wrote: post #37
sleepysysadmin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I created my own bubble on Facebook. Everyone does. There's nothing wrong with it. People at the coffee shops or the pubs were often people with similar interests. The problem is that we exited the culture wars in around 2009. We went into societal crisis. For the next 10-15 years or so we will be looking for the collapse of the crisis. The funny thing is that people still think it's the culture wars. Especially the…

This comment is a great example of something produced by an online bubble. I'm sure if you talked like this in real life most people on your street would have no idea what you're talking about, because you're referencing niche ideas from niche internet subcommunities. It's a problem because it alienates you from your irl community

>This comment is a great example of something produced by an online bubble. I'm sure if you talked like this in real life most people on your street would have no idea what you're talking about, because you're referencing niche ideas from niche internet subcommunities.

Im in an online bubble because im talking about a niche idea?

What if I start talking about Django ModelAdmin templates? That would be quite niche. I bet there's only 5 other people in my city who could have that conversation with me.

Point Im making is that yes it's quite niche and quite the bubble. I never denied the bubbles exist. I explicitly said everyone lives in a bubble and there's nothing wrong with it.

The important reality is the rest of the subject. We aren't in culture wars anymore. We are in crisis akin to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution 77 years later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution 78 years later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War 78 years later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

2021 - 1945 = 76

>It's a problem because it alienates you from your irl community

what IRL community? nobody is allowed to see anyone else. It's also not like this is only subject I know about. Im not getting alienated.

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