“If you want total security, go to prison. There you’re fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking is freedom” --Eisenhower (b. 1890)
Two UK Broadband ISPs Trial New Internet Snooping System
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Basically, If you are required to store the data under an order, then you are not legally allowed to disclose the fact you have received an order, or what you are storing. Same as getting a request from the NCA asking for details on an individual, can't disclose that you received one.
Ah. They're the same as the old RIPA requests then. In another life I worked for a company which processed them from time to time. It is a dreadful shame that stuff has survived.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use a VPN for everything.
This is what I have done since the original snooper's charter came out. It is not perfect -- I am sure that GCHQ etc have got pretty good at correlation attacks -- but by encrypting _everything_ BT, Virgin Media etc. will just get a list containing exactly one IP and a month-long connection time. Secondly, I really recommend Andrews & Arnolds [1] as an ISP if you can only get ADSL. I don't use them at home because I…
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, food standards Scotland could call up TalkTalk and ask for a copy of my browsing history. This is assuming its not been leaked because they got hacked by a 16 year old script kiddy *again*.
The probability of the Chav Network being able to convert bungs into your private data, more or less at will, must be about 100% with that list.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK has never been especially supportive of human rights; it has a tradition of a sort of live-and-let-live native libertarianism, which is why we don't have ID cards (+), but it also has the tradition of imperialist repression techniques which means that the public are broadly supportive of the military shooting people in the street if they think they might be terrorists. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol…
Honestly this 'we dont have an Id card' business just gets you the same result, but more chaotic and disorganised
It’s not even amazingly secure. A few years ago a TV news investigator managed to get a provisional driving license in the name of the blind then-Home Secretary, David Blunkett.
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#196Has everyone forgotten about Tempora [1], XKEYSCORE [2], PRISM, [3] and the other Snowden revelations [4]? This kind of shit has been going on for at least a decade in various forms. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosure...
I find it a bit amusing that we are now at the point where we can say "has everyone forgotten about" about Snowden revelations. When those came out, my reaction at the time was "has everyone forgotten about ECHELON?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well we just saw with covid how it works out if everyone gets to do what they want. Too much freedom is just as harmful as too little. I would argue the only working model was the ancient Romans', having two leaders, a wartime leader and a 'fair-weather one'. It also requires the population to be grown-up enough to know their freedoms can and should be limited at times for their own good. No wonder why 'full citizens…
>Too much freedom is just as harmful as too little. Covid killed what, 0.1% of the population at most, and the average age of death was over 80. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot killed well over an order of magnitude more than that.
Unconstrained spread would’ve been a bit over one order of magnitude worse, even if that hypothetical somehow managed to avoid overwhelming the NHS with exponential growth making half of all cases happen in the final doubling period.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
This often makes me think, what would happen if the authorities suddenly instituted something that actually wasn't trivial to bypass? There are smart people working for them, why do they keep bringing in this stuff that doesn't actually have an effect against the baddies? Is it possible that they are self-sabotaging because they actually realize they don't want to live in the world they are rushing headlong towards?…
Those trying to communicate will always have the advantage thanks to cryptography. It gives you many way to secure and obfuscate communications, even in plain view.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those trying to communicate will always have the advantage thanks to cryptography. It gives you many way to secure and obfuscate communications, even in plain view.
I disagree. Surveillance isn’t limited to breaking encryption — the Stasi would put cameras in water cans to spy on funerals, drill holes in walls while you were out to spy on you in your own apartment, etc. — and the tech for meatspace surveillance has only gotten smaller and cheaper since the fall of the Wall. Laser microphones in particular are something a high school student could reasonably make with a pocket-mo…
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Do you have any recommendations for VPN providers?
This one's frequently suggested: https://mullvad.net/en/ You can pay by cash or cryptocurrencies, you don't need to provide them with your email address, headquartered in the EU, Mozilla's VPN is a partnership with them, open source clients with reproducible builds, WireGuard support.