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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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With respect, this is not what the article means.

The UK has an equivalence agreement with the EU, which unlike a trade agreement can be rescinded quickly (something like 4 weeks). This means that we have to have equivalent provisions to continue to handle data about EU citizens.

so the UK might be "departing" from GDPR in name, it won't be in substance just by this act.

This of course assumes the the UK is acting rationally.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #216

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I'm pretty sure those hyper-annoying multiple-popup flows that happen on YouTube, Google search, etc. are completely localized. Yes it adds complexity, but the size of the markets and companies involved means there's a massive leverage effect. If you get 1,000 people landing on your homepage, small changes in conversion don't justify engineering time or complexity, true. If you've got billions of users, engineering c…

Very true, for a big company, the time may well be worth it, particularly for the likes of FAANG where they have UK branches of their company. I suppose my only counter left would be "is the UK market alone worth the complexity?" Having split off from Europe, and in-fighting among ourselves to the point where we may see the UK itself splitting up again in the next decade. Is it really worth adding additional complexi…

I think it will just depend whether the UK starts aligning with the US, say, or goes off to have it's own esoteric regulatory environment. In the latter case, yeah, it seems likely some companies will just not bother.

The UK does get advantages from being an Anglophone country though. That's one of the issues with the EU single market: it sounds great in theory--a unified regulatory system that lets you attract customers from the whole EU. In practice though, you start having to consider whether Poland or Lithuania or wherever is worth localizing for.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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I grew up in the city in Australia. Once when I crossed the road (as a pedestrian) at a red light, a police officer on the other side of the street stopped me and gave me a warning for jaywalking. Before I had walked, I had looked both ways and deemed it safe; there was no traffic and no other pedestrians waiting. (In my mind: I am just a person on planet Earth, trying to get from position A to position B, less than…

> Having now lived in the UK and Netherlands for over 10 years, I feel this would never happen here. It wouldn't happen in the UK because jaywalking is not a crime in UK. Quiet Australians accept authority moreso than UK folk.

> Quiet Australians accept authority moreso than UK folk.

This is so far from my stereotype of Aussies that I feel sure it must be a troll, designed to bring out a legion of shirtless, shrimp-barbecuing cobbers, turning the air blue with their feelings about authority.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #87

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Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).

Oh and second amendment style gun rights too

I find it very hard to believe that that would be a popular policy in the UK. Got evidence?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #148

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In the spirit of keeping these comments high quality I'd love engage with you about this. Why do you think that? I'm actually a dual citizen of the UK and Australia and I have to say my experience is that neither country is anything like the US. (Beware when assuming you know who you're talking to on the internet ;) )

I grew up in the city in Australia. Once when I crossed the road (as a pedestrian) at a red light, a police officer on the other side of the street stopped me and gave me a warning for jaywalking. Before I had walked, I had looked both ways and deemed it safe; there was no traffic and no other pedestrians waiting. (In my mind: I am just a person on planet Earth, trying to get from position A to position B, less than…

As someone who was doing the other way around (hey dan!) working in australia coming from france i always find it weird how australian could accepts almost everything from the government with not much contestation,

I remember when there was a law who passed thru in Australia where every small company could fire anyone on the day (it wasn't the case before, i think there was a 3 month period or something).

The law passed and the only comments I could get from colleague at that time (not from you dan ;)) was "humm okay then"

In france there would be riots for months and years if such law passed.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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The difference is that the referendum was stacked against leave in every conceivable way. For example, the remain campaign had £6m more to work with. On top of this the government spent £9m on pro remain leaflets and social media advertising. Add onto this the fact that the government wheeled out every 'expert' it could find to constantly cry about how bad brexit would be - most of them were lying (Mark Carney, Georg…

Actually, the referendum was stacked against Remain, as Leave covered every single possible variation of not being in the EU, and at no point had to define anything except being "Not Remain"

I don't think that's a stacked decision. There's no way to specify exactly what each of two options will entail. (If you don't believe me, take a look at a California ballot pamphlet.) Of course Leave was gonna be more uncertain - but normally such uncertainty plays against you in referendums, where the status quo tends to win. If Remain didn't pin Leave down, then that's the fault of their campaigning, not the setup.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #103

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

Why is it inevitable that the UK will become like America? There are plenty of independent Algo-States that are nothing like it. Australia, New Zealand, Canada for example. This comment seems to be borne out spite more than any kind of logic.

Australia is fast adopting some of what I consider some of the less useful aspects of American culture, not to mention our political class revelling in their overt corruption and willingly opening the back-door for the rest of 5-EYES.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the spirit of keeping these comments high quality I'd love engage with you about this. Why do you think that? I'm actually a dual citizen of the UK and Australia and I have to say my experience is that neither country is anything like the US. (Beware when assuming you know who you're talking to on the internet ;) )

I grew up in the city in Australia. Once when I crossed the road (as a pedestrian) at a red light, a police officer on the other side of the street stopped me and gave me a warning for jaywalking. Before I had walked, I had looked both ways and deemed it safe; there was no traffic and no other pedestrians waiting. (In my mind: I am just a person on planet Earth, trying to get from position A to position B, less than…

> Having now lived in the UK and Netherlands for over 10 years, I feel this would never happen here

Weird, as I met a dutch woman in Australia, from Maastricht, who was deathly afraid of crossing the road at the wrong time because where she was from she could get in trouble for that.

Whereas I lived in WA for a couple of years and never saw anything like it.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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"the MPs in parliament - are predominantly remainers." The Conservatives have a majority and are there any Remainers left in that party - I thought most of them had been purged before the last election?

Ken Clarke isn’t going anywhere.

You know he's retired, right?

Interesting guy, my opinion of him changed (for the better) when I found out he presented a regular Jazz show on the radio.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #64

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

Not that I voted for this, but what’s done is done. And now that it is, I’d personally like to take the wins where we can get them. Hoping we see the light, and the blight that is the cookie law goes the way of the dodos.

The cookie law is like those plaque disclosing tablets you can chew to figure out if you are brushing right.

If your teeth turn out blighted all blue/purple, you generally don't blame the tablets. ;-)

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