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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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‘too many businesses and organisations are reluctant to use data – either because they don’t understand the rules or are afraid of inadvertently breaking them’ TBH I'm glad companies stay away from my data if they don't know how to get consent, store data securely, or even what those things mean.

Yes this sounds like a great thing

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

We'll see. Seems like not being part of a larger "union" has allowed them to start vaccinating at 3 times the pace of its European neighbours. Historically, power removed further from the people does not benefit the people. There are very few "economies of scale" in politics. As the system grows larger, accountability becomes more difficult and decision making is harder and harder. Nice example is Iceland. after the…

If the UK was not leaving the EU, the country may have chosen to follow this “common strategy” and move at the same pace as other members. However, it is not a legal requirement.

https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-brexit/

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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In terms of economy why not? The USA is equal in GDP to the entire EU, and it seems much more efficient to deal with them, an actual country, than 27 odd countries whom all have their own agenda and are masquerading as one country. Of course it's very fashionable on the internet to shit on brexit. "haha brits be dumb cus independent" - I can only imagine what sort of insecurity you're dealing with about your own coun…

I agree. I didn't vote for Brexit but it is hard to see how the pro-Brexit crowd haven't been vindicated with the vaccine roll out.

Britain handled corona one of the worst in the world, the vaccine thing does seem like a genuine good news story but it’s bolting the door after the old people are all dead. Go back, look at the excess death rates, the extra preparation time the Uk squandered and the rhetoric at the time. Our ruling class have the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead on their hands and it’s astonishing that the entire British public is mollified by getting vaccinated a couple of months early, when the damage is already done.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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It's unclear whether the 'they' you refer to are the British people, or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. (I'm aware that all sounds quite America-like already)

For a start the people who actually rule - the MPs in parliament - are predominantly remainers. When it comes to business leaders, they're as divided as everyone else. A lot of businesses do extensive trade with the EU and stand to lose. The finance industry particularly risks losing a lot of business, although there are some sectors of it that might gain it's mostly through trading on short term volatility. They'll…

"the MPs in parliament - are predominantly remainers."

The Conservatives have a majority and are there any Remainers left in that party - I thought most of them had been purged before the last election?

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> I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. Oh, nonsense. People disagree with you politically. That doesn't make it 'unveiled corruption'. What a lazy way to think.

Corruption might be the wrong word. But 'disagree politically' suggests that what voters think matters, instead of what financial contributors desire. Every political decision has winners and losers. This one seems heavily biased towards the 0.01% of people directly financially incentivized, while the rest has to deal with the breach of privacy and the social effects of hyper targeted advertisement ( a case can be ma…

I disagree. Most startups and other small businesses, for example, are not run by the 0.01%. And yet, the data ecosystem is often key to their success. Targeted ads are a boon to hairdressers and multi-billion-dollar conglomerates alike. Just because something happens to enrich the top end, doesn't mean it's of no use to everyone else. We shouldn't avoid doing overall beneficial things because the rich will tend to benefit more. The rich benefit more from almost everything. We might as well say no to building roads because it provides for Bezos' delivery empire.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).

Privatising the health system is the elephant in the room that's been talked about a lot.

The Conservatives aren't stupid enough to privatize the NHS. It's a straw man argument - the NHS, much like the EU, is irrationally loved by the common voter and only Labour can get away with privatizing it, having perpetuated the complete myth that they are in some way its defenders while, according to them, the evil conservatives always have some corrupt plan to sack it off.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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post #112

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We'll see. Seems like not being part of a larger "union" has allowed them to start vaccinating at 3 times the pace of its European neighbours. Historically, power removed further from the people does not benefit the people. There are very few "economies of scale" in politics. As the system grows larger, accountability becomes more difficult and decision making is harder and harder. Nice example is Iceland. after the…

If the UK was not leaving the EU, the country may have chosen to follow this “common strategy” and move at the same pace as other members. However, it is not a legal requirement. https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-brexit/

I am not talking about the speed of vaccine approval. The only thing I am seeing is that the UK is vaccinating at an incredible pace compared to even the richest European countries.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in public for a while now. There's going to be downsides for sure but becoming "America like" is not going to be one of them.

You're cherry picking.

Which is exactly what is done with Britain. News item, queue "they get what they deserve". How about the EU gets what it deserves for being a undemocratic, big bungling bureaucracy?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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I work in an large euroepan enterprise and our GDPR compliance is... absymal. And we're not even investing that much into becoming more compliant. My impression is that the board is in a state of denial, as doing GDPR properly would probably cost us billions.

Exactly, once Europe realises that the USA's 2018 Cloud Act makes its *impossible* for every USA registered cloud provider, every Office 365 account, every Google doc, every Gmail account, and every Dropbox account to be GDPR compliant, it will just quietly fade away. A nice idea, but no one will care that much.

All those are "fading away" in every area of enterprise I have seen that deal with private data. When GDPR is causing US states to follow suit and create GDPR-like laws I'd say it is the US's woefully bad privacy laws that are fading the most. Of course I don't believe for a second that it will matter inside the US but that is not the EU's problem.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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> UK to depart from GDPR Good for them. Looks like in the UK there will be a lot less time wasting clicking on useless "Accept all cookies or else" disclaimers pop-ups.

Just block them in your ad blocker, because they must be opt-in, by not interacting with them you are asserting your right to not be tracked.
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