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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by beforeolives »

rich_sasha wrote: post #4

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I think GDPR is a great step towards stopping companies hoarding your data and holding you hostage to it. On the other, main GDPR change is those awful 'hand over data / pretend you're not' dialogue boxes. When I'm feeling strong, I look for the 'reject / object / blah' box, but often I don't find it in me to resist anymore. So maybe it's not awful they're reshaping…

This won't be a change aiming to improve your web browsing user experience. It will likely be a change to reduce your rights and legal protections.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by 8fingerlouie »

Hamuko wrote: post #2

> new information commissioner to focus not just on privacy but on the use of data for ‘economic and social goals’. Congratulations Britons, your data's back on sale.

I wonder if we will now see a situation where British companies will be forced to move their cloud out of GB, to i.e. Ireland if they want to do business with the rest of Europe ?

The thing is, even though the GB decides to ditch GDPR, they're still bound by it if they want to do business with the rest of Europe, just like the US is bound by it.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by martin_a »

rich_sasha wrote: post #4

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I think GDPR is a great step towards stopping companies hoarding your data and holding you hostage to it. On the other, main GDPR change is those awful 'hand over data / pretend you're not' dialogue boxes. When I'm feeling strong, I look for the 'reject / object / blah' box, but often I don't find it in me to resist anymore. So maybe it's not awful they're reshaping…

The GDPR sets a pretty straight border for this.

No active (this does NOT include "by using this site you accept...") approval = no permission to collect data and give it to third parties.

That's the law. But we'll still need some hard work and hefty fines to make everyone obey it.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by andy_ppp »

melomal wrote: post #5

I can honestly say that I think it made little to no difference, across the board. The requirements etc have not been fulfilled by most companies, why bother.

I helped build a GDPR compliant system for container shipping crew personnel details that included passport photos and other sensitive details. GDPR was actually helpful in that it asks you to treat personal data as if it’s as important as credit card data. We did this and consequently if you had a a database dump or backup you’d be really hard pushed to extract any crew information from it and getting at passport copies was even more difficult. I think it’s a very well thought through spec and eventually those companies ignoring it will get burned one way or another.

Edit: removed needlessly aggressive "That is a lie" opening gambit.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by estaseuropano »

dash2 wrote: post #6

YIPPEE. Does this mean no more of those stupid little popups every time I see a site? HOORAY. Does it mean less absurd bureaucracy and non-jobs? GREAT. As for data privacy... does anyone seriously think that Facebook was stopped from collecting data due to GDPR?

Facebook and google takeout only exist because of gdpr.

Right to delete (not just deactivate) your account only exists due to gdpr.

Right to opt out at all only exists because of gdpr, and many companies do actually stick to it.

That many don't follow the spirit of the regulation is not really the fault of the regulation. Thing is its not been tested much in the courts yet, but the cases have really started last year so hopefully more enforcement incoming.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by fundatus »

This feels like one of those things where Post-Brexit-Britain simply HAS to do something different. Just for the sake of it. Sovereignty and all that. The fact that many online businesses will probably still cater to EU citizens and will therefore still follow GDPR rules doesn't matter. Those companies will end up with two slightly different sets of rules and it will just be annoying.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by killtimeatwork »

james-bcn wrote: post #10
melomal wrote: post #5

I can honestly say that I think it made little to no difference, across the board. The requirements etc have not been fulfilled by most companies, why bother.

If you work in enterprise it absolutely has made a big difference.

I work in an large euroepan enterprise and our GDPR compliance is... absymal. And we're not even investing that much into becoming more compliant. My impression is that the board is in a state of denial, as doing GDPR properly would probably cost us billions.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by monkey_monkey »

dash2 wrote: post #6

YIPPEE. Does this mean no more of those stupid little popups every time I see a site? HOORAY. Does it mean less absurd bureaucracy and non-jobs? GREAT. As for data privacy... does anyone seriously think that Facebook was stopped from collecting data due to GDPR?

I guess Facebook can use the additional profit they'll make on UK citizens to pay for fines they incur in the EU

https://www.decisionmarketing.co.uk/news/facebook-sets-aside...

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by andy_ppp »

I mean this of course means EU data won’t be able to be stored on British servers as I understand it. More barriers to trade, it’s like this government is trying to destroy the economy...

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by andy_ppp »

vmception wrote: post #9

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

They get to asset strip the country before anyone realises right?
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