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Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

#11

Posted it because it reminds me of an hypothesis I once saw, that we might be able to detect alien civilizations based on blank spots in the sky where they've managed to divert all the energy from their environment.

I've heard this idea in the context of Dyson spheres/swarms. The issue is that, while they'd be invisible or dim to the eye, the areas would be very bright in infrared.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

#12

Posted it because it reminds me of an hypothesis I once saw, that we might be able to detect alien civilizations based on blank spots in the sky where they've managed to divert all the energy from their environment.

It might not be as empty as it looks. Maybe it’s just got a really big dark sheet over it. Astronomers don’t consider the possibility of ginormous dark sheets in space.

A dyson sphere? I believe that possibility has been raised.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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post #11

Posted it because it reminds me of an hypothesis I once saw, that we might be able to detect alien civilizations based on blank spots in the sky where they've managed to divert all the energy from their environment.

I've heard this idea in the context of Dyson spheres/swarms. The issue is that, while they'd be invisible or dim to the eye, the areas would be very bright in infrared.

Depends on how large the swarm is. Using our sun as the example a 1AU swarm would be very warm, but at 100 AU it would be extremely cold and much harder to detect.

Really though, a Dyson’s swarm isn’t that efficient long term. It’s likely better to dismantle large stars and use fusion reactors with heat sinks at close to 2.73 Kelvin as possible.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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Voids aren’t empty they just have less stuff in them. There’s galaxies and things in there.

Sometimes I wonder about the percentage of HN commenters who actually read the article. Literally a few paragraphs in: “The lack of radio sources means that there are no galaxies or clusters in that volume.”

See, I was prepared to downvote the comment. But then you commented, and someone else did, too. So, they actually did spark conversation. Now I have to upvote, I guess.

/s (just in case)

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

#16

Posted it because it reminds me of an hypothesis I once saw, that we might be able to detect alien civilizations based on blank spots in the sky where they've managed to divert all the energy from their environment.

Probably more in the domain of god - if you believe in that sort of thing - than aliens.

At that level what’s the difference?

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

#17

Voids aren’t empty they just have less stuff in them. There’s galaxies and things in there.

Sometimes I wonder about the percentage of HN commenters who actually read the article. Literally a few paragraphs in: “The lack of radio sources means that there are no galaxies or clusters in that volume.”

I think it’s pretty low, but that’s because the comments are usually more interesting.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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Voids aren’t empty they just have less stuff in them. There’s galaxies and things in there.

Sometimes I wonder about the percentage of HN commenters who actually read the article. Literally a few paragraphs in: “The lack of radio sources means that there are no galaxies or clusters in that volume.”

I usually click on the comments, if an article seems interesting I’ll see if the comments say it’s bad etc before clicking but even articles I’m not interested in but have an interesting topic I’ll click through to read the comments.

This one, for instance, I’ll admit I haven’t clicked through to the article. I’ve long been interested in these voids so I didn’t figure the article would relay any information I wasn’t aware of so I clicked through to see what people here had to say.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reminded of the Three Body Problem series, where there's this concept of a Black Domain - an area of space in which the speed of light has been reduced drastically. Some civilizations in the setting have reason to deliberately construct these areas of space. (The reasoning behind this might be considered a spoiler, so I'll leave it off.)

You mean like in Vernor Vinge's 1992 A Fire Upon the Deep ?

Sort of. In Vinge's world, the slow zone is just a natural phenomenon, not something artificially created. And in the slow zone you're basically limited to nearly-speed-of-light travel consistent with our contemporary understanding of relativistic physics (which is unbearably slow to anyone who can travel much faster than that outside the slow zone). Whereas in Liu Cixin's books, if I remember correctly, they actually change the speed of light itself to be even slower.

Re: Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)

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Voids aren’t empty they just have less stuff in them. There’s galaxies and things in there.

Sometimes I wonder about the percentage of HN commenters who actually read the article. Literally a few paragraphs in: “The lack of radio sources means that there are no galaxies or clusters in that volume.”

I've considered if a discussion site like this would work solely based on the headline without actually needing TFA. Often it feels like people who comment just want to share their point of view about a particular topic rather than the article itself. Many people read the comments first (or exclusively).

Perhaps Dang could get analytics on how many people viewed the comments and how many people clicked through to the article to answer your question.

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