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Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by keithnz »

Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

seems like it would be awfully slow for any experienced vimmer also. Seems like a really bad idea for a foot pedal / vim integration.

A, possibly, much better idea would be if you press the pedal, is turn the hjkl keys into sending actual arrow key keycodes so those annoying times when you need to arrow through OS menus etc you can use your vim instincts. Not that I'd ever want to incorporate a foot pedal myself, but seems like a better use. Vims keyboard drive approach is super quick as is, if you are having trouble with getting into and out of insert mode, maybe Vim isn't for you.

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by ggop »

Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

Minor improvement, cc can be replaced by S

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by nuker »

atty wrote: post #26
Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

Seems like you just need more pedals.

Vim should support mouse, like Midnight Commander

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by gmfawcett »

atty wrote: post #26
Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

Seems like you just need more pedals.

You can do it with one pedal -- just tap out your preferred option in Morse.

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by gmfawcett »

samatman wrote: post #19
klyrs wrote: post #4

I feel like Emacs needs a footpedal more than vim... but this is cool too.

No joke, a piano style set of three footpedals with Meta, Ctrl, and Hyper, is something I would actually use. Tricky though, because it would have to talk to the keyboard, not the computer.

Kinesis sells programmable three-way foot pedals:

https://kinesis-ergo.com/shop/savant-elite2-triple-pedal/

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by jolmg »

Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

ce - change to end of word (consecutive identifier chars or consecutive punctuation)

cE - change to end of WORD (consecutive non-whitespace chars)

Those are probably the most common for me because I tend to navigate by word/WORD in a line with w, b, W, B.

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

#37

Post by bamboozled »

Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

Been using vim for 20 years and didn’t know some of these, thanks.

Re: Vim Clutch – A hardware pedal for improved text editing (2012)

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Post by emidln »

Slackwise wrote: post #22

This is cool and all, but nearly useless for any experienced vimmer. I almost never press `i` to enter insert mode, and I don't expect most vimmers to do so either. My most common ways to enter insert mode are, off the top of my head... o -- Open new line below current line, enter insert mode. O -- Open new line above current line, enter insert mode. ci( -- Delete all text between the nearest parenthesis and enter in…

I use cw and Cw a lot, but the point is made, c is more useful than "some delete op" + "insert mode".
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