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Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by rtpg »

symlinkk wrote: post #3
stu2b50 wrote: post #2

Wow, I'll have to try that out. For reference, I really like how shortcuts work in MacOS. This won't solve the lack of a standard that developers try to adhere to on other platforms. But it's immensely annoying to have to shift between ctrl+c and ctrl+shift+c depending on whether or not you're on a terminal versus another application. As a bonus, I press command with my thumb which is both stronger than my pinkie and…

I don’t get the fascination with macOS keyboard shortcuts, people always mention the copy thing that you did and it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.

Here's why it's, objectively, the best thing:

- Super key isn't wasted on window management (a thing you basically are doing a handful of time per sessions). A nicely-placed key is used for things that you do a lot!

- No "oh wow the start menu showed up randomly" BS when you fat finger.

- Control commands "just work" everywhere! Terminal usage is of course easy, but ctrl-a/ctrl-e also work for cursor movement. You get great text maninpulation! Seriously, being able to move the cursor around in any text field is a game changer.

- Isolation of most system-level operations to that key mean that you are unlikely to hit weird conflicts. And if you fat-finger you can Super-Z out of your issue most of the time.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by californical »

jimbob45 wrote: post #21
beloch wrote: post #12

The difference between Mac and PC keyboards is a real usability problem. If you're used to PC's or Linux, moving to a Mac and dealing with their shortcuts is painful, and vice-versa. The worst is using a mixture of both Mac's and PC's on a daily basis. Moving back and forth between platforms daily means you either have to get used to hitting the wrong shortcuts or use a hack to swap keys around on one platform so you…

Apple’s MO all along has been lock-in to their ecosystem any way they can make it happen, whether it be through their usability, their OS, their App Store, or iTunes. They don’t want to be interoperable because then you might realize you’re paying a huge premium for an inferior product.

I switched to Apple computers relatively recently (from mostly linux-based systems, and a little bit of Windows).

Very quickly, the Mac keyboard shortcuts have totally won me over with how much better they are. They’re actually a big part of the reason I got into the computer in the first place. It’s SO much nicer once you get used to it.

Doubly so because I use an ergonomic split keyboard, so the Mac layout means it’s much easier to do most actions without twisting my hands in weird ways. Copy in terminal? Cmd+C. Compared to Ctrl+Shift+C.

Ctrl still works for all of the standard terminal functions.

And, as a big vim user, I can use a vim emulator within my IDE. I can still get all of the IDE shortcuts with The Cmd key, but also all of the vim actions with the Ctrl key still work and don’t conflict. This is arguably the biggest win of all.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by ComputerGuru »

Shameless plug: wincycle makes win/cmd+backtick to cycle between Windows of the same app work. This and iMessage were the two things I missed leaving macOS for Windows and so I solved them both for myself :)

https://neosmart.net/blog/2017/easy-window-switcher/

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by ziftface »

momothereal wrote: post #40
ziftface wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate what you mean by readline style controls? Looked it up but that didn't help.

On macOS, Ctrl+a (^a) goes to the beginning of the line, Ctrl-e (^e) goes to the end. On Windows you can do [Home] and [End] respectively iirc. I think "readline-style controls" refers to a more letter-based approach, instead of special keys? i.e. ^a, ^e, ^w...

Ah I see. I didn't know that. Usually I use option arrow keys or command arrow keys for that. Hopefully this supports those.

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by pseudalopex »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #43

Shameless plug: wincycle makes win/cmd+backtick to cycle between Windows of the same app work. This and iMessage were the two things I missed leaving macOS for Windows and so I solved them both for myself :) https://neosmart.net/blog/2017/easy-window-switcher/

How did you solve iMessage?

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by ComputerGuru »

pseudalopex wrote: post #47
ComputerGuru wrote: post #43

Shameless plug: wincycle makes win/cmd+backtick to cycle between Windows of the same app work. This and iMessage were the two things I missed leaving macOS for Windows and so I solved them both for myself :) https://neosmart.net/blog/2017/easy-window-switcher/

How did you solve iMessage?

I didn't link to that because it's unfortunately not something that I can share a download to like I could with wincycle: https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/

Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows

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Post by neolog »

ziftface wrote: post #35
newobj wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, guess not.

Can you elaborate what you mean by readline style controls? Looked it up but that didn't help.

"GNU readline" is the name of the library that handles interactive shell. It has support for emacs and vim keyboard shortcuts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Readline

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