Every few years I try linux and hit this problem and each time the “solution” is to modify my behavior to ctrl+shift+c.
Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows
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#12The difference between Mac and PC keyboards is a real usability problem. If you're used to PC's or Linux, moving to a Mac and dealing with their shortcuts is painful, and vice-versa. The worst is using a mixture of both Mac's and PC's on a daily basis. Moving back and forth between platforms daily means you either have to get used to hitting the wrong shortcuts or use a hack to swap keys around on one platform so you can have standard shortcut key positions across platforms.
Different people will have a preference for one layout vs the other but, in reality, the layout that feels good is what you're used to.
The PC and Linux worlds are not going to adopt Mac keyboard layouts. As the one oddball computer manufacturer that uses their own layout, perhaps it's time for Apple to offer PC keyboard layouts as an option on their machines out of consideration for people who have to use multiple platforms.
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#13What I really want, though, is Mac-style character-entry in Linux. It's so much easier to type accented characters in Mac.
Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows
#14The difference between Mac and PC keyboards is a real usability problem. If you're used to PC's or Linux, moving to a Mac and dealing with their shortcuts is painful, and vice-versa. The worst is using a mixture of both Mac's and PC's on a daily basis. Moving back and forth between platforms daily means you either have to get used to hitting the wrong shortcuts or use a hack to swap keys around on one platform so you…
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#15Maybe a n00b question, but will this give me Emacs keybindings in text fields on KDE? If so, I might be able to tolerate switching to Linux now.
Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows
#16The difference between Mac and PC keyboards is a real usability problem. If you're used to PC's or Linux, moving to a Mac and dealing with their shortcuts is painful, and vice-versa. The worst is using a mixture of both Mac's and PC's on a daily basis. Moving back and forth between platforms daily means you either have to get used to hitting the wrong shortcuts or use a hack to swap keys around on one platform so you…
My main computer is a mac but I have to remote into windows machines often and switching between is horrible. I've remapped my gaming pc to mirror the mac layout because the instinct is so much stronger than whats written on the keys.
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#17Who puts the table of contents in the middle of the content? Below that is where you'll find the "What does this do exactly?" section, which really should be the first thing on the page. Why does the opening section say "Seamless copy and paste with all apps and terminals"? Seems to have nothing to do with the project. https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto/#table-of-contents
I read the “what exactly does this do?” section and still don’t know what it does. Maybe I’m just dumb, but there doesn’t seem to be any “user story” to succinctly describe what the heck this accomplishes... I just use ctrl-c on windows and cmd-c on Mac, it’s not that hard. But maybe this is way bigger than just... remapping win-c to ctrl-c? Idk? There’s no story about this utility directly in the Readme...
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t get the fascination with macOS keyboard shortcuts, people always mention the copy thing that you did and it doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.
There's two parts to it. One, that macOS has a proscribed way for apps to compose command, ctrl, and option for shortcuts, whereas it's basically the Wild West on the other platforms. So it's just generally nice on macOS. The terminal thing is, in the grand scheme of things, minor, but a very nice QoL. It's annoying to mode shift from ctrl as a desktop environment modifier to ctrl as a unix modifier. Especially when…
> It's not like it's impossible to adjust, but it's very nice to have command+c do the same thing, everywhere.
Yeah, I would sum it up as reducing the number of discrete shortcut sets to remember to the bare minimum, instead lumping as much as possible into the global set.
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#19I used to get annoyed by the differences between platforms and apps. I had my Windows desktop tweaked out just so, and I knew how to set it up that way on a new install in a matter of hours. It kept me tied to Windows for longer than it should've. Then I went switched to Apple and stuck with it for many years, learning a new way. Then, just like with Windows, the rug was pulled out and I had little say in it, and I finally went to GNU, where I have some choice.
Over the years, I've been through so many platforms and apps, back and forth, so many times, all with their own conflicting shortcuts and different input modes day-to-day, that I've just accepted it as part of my "mindfulness practice" to always be aware of where and how I am before I press or click anything.
Reminds me of Altered Carbon, just a much more geeky version.
Re: Kinto: Mac-style shortcut keys for Linux and Windows
#20The difference between Mac and PC keyboards is a real usability problem. If you're used to PC's or Linux, moving to a Mac and dealing with their shortcuts is painful, and vice-versa. The worst is using a mixture of both Mac's and PC's on a daily basis. Moving back and forth between platforms daily means you either have to get used to hitting the wrong shortcuts or use a hack to swap keys around on one platform so you…
as a person who loves Macs and their keyboard shortcuts, I'm really excited to find this project! and as somebody like yourself, who has to work on both platforms (Apple/PC) every day, I'm very happy it exists. would the answer to your problem not be a reciprocal library for Mac that ports over (or makes possible) your preferred shortcuts? I believe this already exists, which should be good news for you.