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Re: Write Simply

#151
Counterpoint; writing simply isn't useful in all cases, communicating simply is telling a first grade student that multiplication is repeated addition, yes it works in most day to day examples, but it breaks down when you start looking closely - how do you add something to itself zero time?

Communicating simply can leave vague generalities to a technical conversation or decision making process that allows for those involved to make the wrong assumptions; but if you take the time to give precision to the process you can remove those assumptions without harming the overall communication. One doesn't need to go in depth about how a decision tree works or a random forest works to explain the pros and cons of the process, and the assumptions made to get the results.

Writing simply in all cases is the equivalent of "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail," writing precisely is using a screwdriver when you're working with screws and a hammer with nails. Use the right tool for the job, sometimes simple isn't correct, and sometimes precision isn't either (elementary school algebra vs algebraic theory).

Re: Write Simply

#152

“Easy reading is damn hard writing.“ — Nathaniel Hawthorne (apparently)* There’s definite value to simplicity in writing. At the same time, like all principles, people tend to run with the idea and misapply it. There are some cases in which your work demands a certain level of precision that’s only possible using complex words or jargon. Not to mention, writing that’s a little complicated can be a lot more fun! There…

Reading that paragraph, 20-30 percent could be removed. Reading for pleasure should be entertaining. Reading for knowledge should be simple/concise.

The most successful (by that I mean, placed the greatest number of ideas in the greatest number of brains) informative writing I've seen is a pleasure to read as well. Humans are capable of deriving multiple rewards from something at the same time. People who fetishize simplicity would take Carl Sagan's:

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

And replace it with:

The Earth contains all humans and is far from Voyager I.

Re: Write Simply

#153
post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That interview with George Plimpton (I think) is great, but Hemingway does eventually go into a bit more detail when pressed. My interpretation is that he admires people who have a deep well of talent and knowledge and use that to push art and science in a new direction. Bill Watterson is an excellent classical painter and painted the Creation of Adam on his dorm room ceiling, and although Calvin and Hobbes doesn't l…

I hadn't thought about it from that perspective. Funny thing that occurred to me about the famous iceberg principle is that Hemingway had a large unpublished/abandoned volume of writing on Nick Adams, the fictional hero of many of his short stories. So in a sense the Nick Adams his readers knew, was only exposed as a fraction of the character's full existence, so to speak. I can imagine a writer taking it further and…

Yes - I certainly didn't want to impart 'the obvious' in my response, but I'm not sure if there's an answer to your more literal question. If there was, we would have read an HN post on how there's a great new AI that develops compelling literary works, art, and music based on analyzing past masters and current psyche. Of course, there are AI writing, painting, and music composition systems, but other than seemingly random chance, they have yet to produce something compelling (novel, yes).

I do believe many great artists had a certain degree of mental affliction - not so much to incapacitate, but to provide additional insight. For example, it's been said that Ravel's Bolero was written in the early throes of his mental affliction, hence the repetitive theme. I completely agree with you - compositions (classical and modern) ultimately take us on small adventures from one place to another and back - happiness, despair, melancholy, and so on. As you mention, the melodies are the main 'characters' in the story, supported by chord sequences, rhythmic patterns, ostinato, and so on, all perversely using our ancient and deep auditory instincts of baby wails, hurt fellow tribe members, dangerous animals, thunder, laughter, etc. against us to elicit an emotional response. A great song creates a personal story in the listener's mind based on past experiences. Great painters and authors strive for the same response, but I think it's a more difficult task; for some reason we're more susceptible to auditory emotions vs. visual or the written word. Of course, soundtrack composers combine the visual with auditory very effectively; the whole being more than the sum of individual parts.

As for creating an entire world on which to base novels and characters on, Hemingway does touch on this as well, stating roughly that he could have made The Old Man and the Sea 1,000 pages with every detail exposed and examined (and that approach has successfully been used before), but it was much more compelling (and difficult) for him to eliminate all unnecessary things and have the town exist under the waterline as internal experience and just let the novel show whats important, which connects the reader with the story, as they have to fill in the details with their own experiences and ideas as opposed to Hemingway's.

Re: Write Simply

#154

Meh. Reducing language to a mere communication tool also destroys much of its beauty, meaning, and ability to inspire or motivate us. I don't think it's a coincidence that the loss of interest in poetry has coincided with a general loss of respect for literary culture. I had this impression recently while reading the Akbarnama , which is a sort of court-approved biography of the Mughal Emperor Akbar. It was written b…

>Reducing language to a mere communication tool also destroys much of its beauty, meaning, and ability to inspire or motivate us. I don't think it's a coincidence that the loss of interest in poetry has coincided with a general loss of respect for literary culture.

That's not the argument here. This talks about language and writing as a means of communicating ideas to as broad an audience as possible. There is still a place for dense, poetic, or ambiguous language full of jargon and metaphor and all that good stuff. For example, physicists will communicate amongst themselves in a very inaccessible language of physics because they need precise language in that setting. But a physicists who wants to communicate his ideas to the public, he will simplify it to to make it accessible.

Re: Write Simply

#155

Haha this is the guy who writes like an SAT exam question. It is very flat and boring, unmemorable. Of course the guy is a bazillionaire, I may never be like him, but the style of writing is stale like sparkling water gone flat. But I have read probably every one of his articles and taken away his ideas as the canonical guide for startup wisdom and success.

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Re: Write Simply

#156

“Easy reading is damn hard writing.“ — Nathaniel Hawthorne (apparently)* There’s definite value to simplicity in writing. At the same time, like all principles, people tend to run with the idea and misapply it. There are some cases in which your work demands a certain level of precision that’s only possible using complex words or jargon. Not to mention, writing that’s a little complicated can be a lot more fun! There…

I believe the best piece of advice is, "Know your audience."

Yes. And for wanting to expand that audience simpler writing is an advantage IMO

Re: Write Simply

#157
Jacques Barzun somewhere remarked that what makes for difficult reading is not length or number of words but density of thought. He instanced Dickens as a writer who used long words and complicated syntax but whom everyone finds easy to read.

Re: Write Simply

#158
Some of the comments here might benefit from what I believe is an unstated assumption in this piece.

The assumption is that the purpose of your writing is to argue for a particular viewpoint/stance/take on an issue in a sober way.

I don't believe the author is saying "write simply" if you are writing poetry or you are trying to inspire and motivate with emotion.

Most of the author's writings are dry, devoid of fluff, and to the point, which I think flows from embracing the thinking behind this piece.

Purpose dictates style.

Re: Write Simply

#159
Regarding writing as editing:

This is a big problem in churches. As a child and young adult I spent countless hours listening to sermons on Sunday mornings. At some point, I realized that many sermons were delivered without editing. Every week the pastor has to deliver a certain amount of content, regardless of whether they have anything valuable to say. As a result, at many churches what you get is a combination of plagiarism and stream of consciousness. At only a few did I find any evidence of editing, and at even fewer editing by another person. The difference in quality was immense, and I believe that to a substantial extent the growth of the church would be correlated with that factor.

Re: Write Simply

#160
post #88

Simple writing definitely has its place along side more complex writing. It depends on the goal for sure. Writing to an audience to convey an idea. Maybe simple is better. Writing a document for the sales team of your product? Probably want to make it simple and leave out complexities. I do however understand some of the comments saying that complex writing can be more artful. A good analogy, symbolism, or metaphor c…

A metaphor could be worth one thousand words but it’s not the case that simple writing can’t use metaphors, just less fancy words, less ornament, less bombastic, etc
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