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Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #28

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

> Currently, they get approximately $240 per year from me and my family. If everyone has to create their own account, that number goes up to $1200. Typo of extra zero? Is this US dollars? The most expensive digital plan is 17.99 USD / month. With discs, few $ more. USD 240/month is excessive.

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Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by d0100 » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

gt565k wrote: post #14

tw04 wrote: post #4

I think this is going to have the exact opposite effect of what they're going for. I know plenty of people who split the cost of an account because they can't justify the full price. The continual price hikes, and now this? I'm sure the bean counters have done the math and they'll come out ahead, but losing content + raising prices and now killing off people sharing accounts is just a bad look. This is yet another ca…

Nah... if you can't justify $10-15 a month, but you spend 10+ hours binge watching, maybe you should get a side hustle or drive uber/lyft. Peanuts cost argument doesn't hold any water.

For someone that has 10+ hours to binge-watch, that time will just be spent on something cheaper-free

They won't get extra work because they don't want to, they want to spend 10+ hours having cheap/free fun

I know this because I am one of those people, ha!

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #28

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

> Currently, they get approximately $240 per year from me and my family. If everyone has to create their own account, that number goes up to $1200. Typo of extra zero? Is this US dollars? The most expensive digital plan is 17.99 USD / month. With discs, few $ more. USD 240/month is excessive.

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Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by macksd » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

The number wouldn't go up to $1200 - most of your family would get by just fine without Netflix because it simply isn't worth what it costs to them. The needle will move on Netflix's revenue and subscriber count, and their costs will slow down. And largely the people affected will forget about this.

The really fair way to price this is by concurrent viewers, independent of location, and they already have that feature. I too have my in-laws logged into my Disney+ account which they never use. But if they watch my kids, and my kids want to pick up where they left off on the Bluey episode, it's both my profile they need and my responsibility to pay for it.

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by NeutronStar » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:06 PM UTC

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #28

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

> Currently, they get approximately $240 per year from me and my family. If everyone has to create their own account, that number goes up to $1200. Typo of extra zero? Is this US dollars? The most expensive digital plan is 17.99 USD / month. With discs, few $ more. USD 240/month is excessive.

I'd suggest you to reread his comment as he's saying it is per year.

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by backtoyoujim » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:07 PM UTC

RHSeeger wrote: post #32

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

What is it that you think is appropriate for you to be pissed off about? You pay for Netflix for you and your household, not for anyone that happens to be related to you. Has that ever not been the case?

What exactly is Netflix pissed about ?

Their stock is over $500 a share.

In 2020 Netflix has positive cashflow of $1.9 billion.

What are they pissed about ?

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by aaronax » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:09 PM UTC

larrik wrote: post #17

chucky wrote: post #10

As part of a single person household it feels weird that there is a norm that you are allowed to share logins "within your household". Effectively this means people in the same household are paying a lower price than others - so people living in single households are effectively subsidizing that usage by paying more per person.

Are you saying if you have a wife and kid you should pay 3x the price?

It's obviously not something that is going to happen, but it's also not that crazy of an idea. They use more water so you pay for more water. They use more clothing so you pay for more clothing. They use more cellular devices so you pay for more cellular connections. They each want an email address so you pay for more email accounts. They use more digital content so you pay for more digital content.

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by PragmaticPulp » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:09 PM UTC

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

> Should my grandma pay $240 per year, to watch two movies I recommend to her (and are ONLY watchable on Netflix)?

This seems more like an edge case. If grandma is only watching a couple movies per year, would Netflix even bother throwing up a warning message? If she didn’t have her own profile in your account, it would be difficult for Netflix to even know if this was a shared account or if you were just logging in at her house during an occasional visit.

They’re not rolling this out to go after grandma watching a couple movies per year.

It’s more likely that they’re targeting the heavy users who share a single account. People who would have their own subscription in a heartbeat if they could no longer exploit the shared account loophole.

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by sandworm101 » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:09 PM UTC

4ggr0 wrote: post #13

The Netflix I pay for is currently used by: Me, Mom, Dad, Grandparents, GF, GFs Mom. Other than myself and my GF, most of the people on this list watch something on Netflix every couple of months, when I or someone/something else recommend them a movie or show. I don't want them to use my profile, because we then obviously can't watch the same things, and it'll break my recommendations. I get why Netflix wants to spl…

I think that you are upset about the subscription model not serving your use case. Pay-per-view is probably more appropriate for those who only want to watch a couple movies every month, put ppv isn't available. Customers instead share their accounts with family members. It is dirty rotten piracy and anyone doing it is stealing bread from the mouths of babes, but that's what happens when the legitimate system fails to offer the delivery model that the customer wants.

My story: I have amazon prime, but no proper screens that can watch it (linux) and there isn't much on prime that I care to watch anyway. So my parents in another state use the account. Should amazon care? They are still only streaming to one IP but the reality is that we are all pirates.

Re: Netflix to start testing warnings for people borrowing login info

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Post by seneca » Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:10 PM UTC

gt565k wrote: post #18

seneca wrote: post #11

I struggle to see Netflix existing in its current form in 5 years. Their content is just awful, and the continuous price hikes just aren't justified. If they also start cracking down on shared accounts, I can only see it hastening their demise.

Huh? Their content is far better than any of their competitors. I have no idea what you're talking about. They've been pumping out amazing original series and movies.

Going to have to respectfully disagree. There's no accounting for taste, but I haven't made it through a full episode of a Netflix original since House of Cards, barring series they bought and labeled originals. I consider their original content very bottom of the barrel.