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I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by tadzik_ »

duiker101 wrote: post #140
jefe_ wrote: post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

I use an email address that ends in .io and the amount of people that still ask me ".io? are you sure that's correct?" never ceases to amaze me.

Hell, booking.com will even tell you that "your address looks incorrect" (sometimes, I got it once out of two bookings made on a single day), if you dare to use your own domain .com. They used to nag me about "ohh, are you sure it's not tadzik_@gmail.com"? And I'm not sure what's worse.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by kozak »

jefe_ wrote: post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

By the way, we already have an "emoji button" on our keyboards: on Windows, it's the Win+. keystroke. Try it if your Windows 10 is updated enough.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by ethbr0 »

gottavomment wrote: post #129
jefe_ wrote: post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

This is art. I worked as a cashier for a couple years, and this feels like a fever dream about those days.

Sample size dichotomy.

From a customer's perspective, this is the way everyone does things. (Sample size: themselves)

From a cashier's perspective, this weirdo is a few standard deviations outside the mean. (Sample size: 1,000+ customers)

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by prepend »

mns wrote: post #68
prepend wrote: post #6

> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

Exchange also does this, if you are part of a group, send an email to that group, you will never get it. We ran into it when one of our systems were sending an alert for a failed action to a group, but it was sending it on behalf of the person that tried to do that action and eventually failed. Everyone in the group was getting the email, except the original person.

That’s not so bad, but it’s not as bad as gmail.

Exchange will return a message that comes back to the mailbox via a forward. Also, I think, Exchange is doing this because the list is on server and it’s part of Exchange’s deduping. If I send to the list and foo and foo is in the list, foo gets one email, not two.

For example, I have foo@gmail.com, foo@outlook.com, foo@prepend.com.

I set up foo@prepend.com to forward to foo@gmail.com.

If I send a message from bar@gmail.com to foo@prepend.com, it comes through as expected.

If I send the same message from foo@gmail.com, I never get it. Prepend.com’s mail server has a record of sending it to gmail.com, but my gmail account has no evidence of it anywhere.

If I change foo@prepend.com to forward to foo@outlook.com, I don’t have this problem.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by tyingq »

tadzik_ wrote: post #151
duiker101 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use an email address that ends in .io and the amount of people that still ask me ".io? are you sure that's correct?" never ceases to amaze me.

Hell, booking.com will even tell you that "your address looks incorrect" (sometimes, I got it once out of two bookings made on a single day), if you dare to use your own domain .com. They used to nag me about "ohh, are you sure it's not tadzik_@gmail.com"? And I'm not sure what's worse.

It does work well. I used a customized version of https://github.com/mailcheck/mailcheck on an ecomm website and the amount of bounces due to typos went way down.

It is important to tune it a bit based on what you see after installing it to reduce the amount of bad suggestions.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by prepend »

tyingq wrote: post #131
prepend wrote: post #6

> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

I'm confused, as I'm able to send and also forward messages from myself to myself just fine in gmail. How would I recreate this? Does it only come up for emails coming from outside of gmail?

You need a third party in between.

That’s what is crazy and took me a long time to debug. If I send from my gmail to myself it works fine.

But if I send to an external mail account that redirects back to me it’s gone.

You can test this with any mail server you run. You can theoretically run a mail server locally and test it if you have DNS resolution that gmail can see.

I use cpanel on one of those countless Linux shared hosts and they have a decent mail admin, I expect any other host will have the same or similar.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by mywacaday »

duiker101 wrote: post #140
jefe_ wrote: post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

I use an email address that ends in .io and the amount of people that still ask me ".io? are you sure that's correct?" never ceases to amaze me.

Try using a .Irish domain

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by prepend »

Tyr42 wrote: post #135
prepend wrote: post #6

> I setup an email forwarder to route all email sent to .ws to my regular email address. >Eagerly I typed ben@.ws into the "to" field of gmail and hit send. > The email never hit my inbox. It was lost forever in cyberspace. I think this was just caused by Gmail now working when a message is sent and received at the same account. It just disappears. [0] It’s really annoying, it’s not part of a spec, it’s just gmail. I…

Should be in your sent folder right?

Yes, but it never gets to inbox. So it looks to the client exactly the same as a broken forward config, or some other bug where the recipient mail server doesn’t error back.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Post by scaladev »

kozak wrote: post #152
jefe_ wrote: post #112

The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly inter…

By the way, we already have an "emoji button" on our keyboards: on Windows, it's the Win+. keystroke. Try it if your Windows 10 is updated enough.

A couple of alternatives for Linux users.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IBus#Emoji_input

The kitty terminal emulator supports this out of the box (it also works on two other platforms):

https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty

Ctrl+Shift+U opens a Unicode input panel with fuzzy search by symbol code or name.

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