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I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#71
post #64

Fun idea! But It’s too bad that Kazakhstan’s decision to MITM all HTTPS traffic makes this a nonstarter for actual use https://www.zdnet.com/article/kazakhstan-government-is-now-i...

That seems completely unrelated to an email service, especially if most of its users are outside of Kazakhstan.

.kz registrants, like many ccTLDs, are required to host core services within the borders of Kazakhstan.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#72
post #52

This is a fun hack, but there is no way I would get involved in providing any form of commercial email service for $1440 arr. I wouldn't do it for $1440 a _day_. Everything involved with email is pain. I wish you luck.

Note that OP is actually generating loss at this point - 300 domains at $8 equals $2400, which is in itself bigger than the income. Can you maybe share what problems OP might have? I have toyed with an idea of starting something similar and would love to know what I'm getting into.

But in one year he'll have almost doubled his investment unless subscriptions all cancel within the year (highly unlikely with things like domain names / email addresses / etc.)

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh HN doesn't support emojis - that is g@ .kz or g@

I am also confused. I assume the email address would always be postfixed with .kz or the email would not arrive.

Yeah, the YouTube ad shows this (there's a quick screenshot of an email address with .kz after the emoji). But the ad also does the trick of eliminating the ccTLD after gmail and yahoo, it asks you "Still using an @gmail address?" ... well I use an @gmail.com address, but I see what you did there, you eliminated the .com so you could also hide the fact that your emoji address actually needs a .kz at the end.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#74
post #5

I think i might have realised I've become old, when the very idea of an emoji domain causes me anger. sigh

Don't think it's about age. I'm also considered old (in the technology sphere at least) and I don't really enjoy the "emoji" humor either, but I don't get mad about seeing them. Let others have their fun, no need to get angry about things you cannot control.

Yeah thats what i meant. I should see the fun as the primary part of this. I guess we're just one step away from meme email addresses.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#75
post #50

Maybe the whole covid thing lowered my happiness-level standards, but I find this charming. Also I would be scared to receive actual money from people for something as out of my control as email. I hope the author doesn't get hit by a wave of "my emoji emails are not being delivered to @commercial-behemoth or @government-branch and I've made my emoji adress my main one and it's all your fault" a few months down the l…

The emoji part is charming. The name grabbing (netflix and facebook domains) - not so much!

Personal preferences aside, the original article [0] on the Netflix and Facebook domains gives context which is no less charming, at least on ethical grounds.

Quoting the relevant part: "They're welcome to have them back anytime they want."

[0] https://tinyprojects.dev/posts/i_bought_netflix_dot_soy

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#77
post #58

I have a domain that would be great for an e-mail forwarding service, but I have second throughts about starting it... Is there someone here with experience in this area? What should the OP be most scared of?

I run an email forwarding service call https://hanami.run

It's fun because you gotta learn alot about email. Especially when you play with DKIM, ARC chain you found yourself reading through RFC. Or when I discover weird issue like this: https://hanami.run/blog/posts/the-quirks-of-gmail-ui/

I think the OP mail one is for fun, people who registered an emoji email properly expect some fun aspect and OK with email being lost.

In practice, the most scared thing is having your IP on blacklist. Very quickly people will complain when they lost email or too many email goes to spam or just rejected completely.

Due to the nature of email forwarding, people usually own the domain, so they use random address for many random website(coupon, download free ebooks, shitty newsletter...) so it attract a large amount of spammer I have to constantly deal with now. When gmail return a 550 in their SMTP server(550 mean they block/rate limiting), I got a bit worry at first but I learnt to live with it nowsaday

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#78

Fun idea! But It’s too bad that Kazakhstan’s decision to MITM all HTTPS traffic makes this a nonstarter for actual use https://www.zdnet.com/article/kazakhstan-government-is-now-i...

They don't MITM anything. There were a few ridiculously incompetent failed attempts. There will undoubtedly be more, but HTTPS works fine at the moment.

Just wanted to clarify this.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#79
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KZ is the shorthand for Konzentrationslager, i.e. concentration camp.

Ok, and .kz is the ccTLD for Kazakhstan. You think people can't realize the difference?

I'm just giving the explanation of the historical context to GP, I'm neither German nor a lawmaker in Germany.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#80
post #37

This is a fun hack, but there is no way I would get involved in providing any form of commercial email service for $1440 arr. I wouldn't do it for $1440 a _day_. Everything involved with email is pain. I wish you luck.

> Everything involved with email is pain. Wish I'd seen this comment 4 years ago.

What would you have done differently?
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