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Re: Based Cooking

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Post by m463 »

dpcan wrote: post #133
hardwaregeek wrote: post #111

Some of these recipes seem decent if you're already somewhat experienced and have developed cook's intuition. Otherwise they're way too vague. For instance, the chicken parm recipe: - There should be a photo of how to slice the chicken breast. Saying "through their width" isn't good enough. I had to explain what "lengthwise" was once because my friend cut all the vegetables the exact opposite of it. - Pound with what…

I learned to cook a lot from the 3x5 cards my mom has in a cupboard. They list stuff like a "pinch" of salt or a "stick" of butter. Sometimes I'll make her dinner from her recipe and she'll be surprised and say "that's not the way I do it" and then she'll really enjoy the food anyway. I think interpretation is what makes cooking an art, and many times, those little individual choices we make to interpret a recipe or…

I used to think recipes were very imprecise.

But I've written down notes (for myself) when configuring a server, so later I'll know what I did. (super helpful)

Thing is, sometimes I write the exact command, but other times I just say general stuff like "setup an account" or "install devtools" ...

which is just like a lot of cooking recipes.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by cdcarter »

chizhik-pyzhik wrote: post #26
talentedcoin wrote: post #21

This is absurd. Many of these recipes don’t even have quantities on them. Needs some kind of QA process at least ....

You could submit a pull request

Of course, that would require you to successfully figure out the right ratio that the recipe author intended.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by mseepgood »

solarkraft wrote: post #40
hannofcart wrote: post #30

> Only Based cooking. Can someone shed light on what "based cooking" is? It's rather tricky to Google for and am unable to figure out what the site's author means by that.

"Based" is a specific online subculture slang for something wholly positive, the opposite of "cringe".

> a specific online subculture slang

But what online subculture? A cringe subculture? Isn't something that is positive to a cringe subculture cringe to everyone else?

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by defen »

cryptoz wrote: post #158
defen wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Based" is a slang word that means the opposite of "cringe", which is the feeling you experience when you go to a recipe site and get treated to 500 words about how much the author loves winter.

Worth throwing out there that 'based' is a new-ish word and means different things to different people. As I have been discussing in this thread, my understanding of the definition of 'based' is something equal to cringe, or 'unpleasant', and sometimes 'racist'. > 500 words about how much the author loves winter Also discussed in this thread, but it is far from agreed-upon that those extra words are 'cringe'; at leas…

It could be all that, or it could be a reference to Lil B's cooking music (as far as I know he invented the word) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZghGHHBO_nU

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by hnick »

cjak wrote: post #136
reedjosh wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No website can fully replace life experience. Either way, the simplicity of presentation here transcends any such criticism which misses the point entirely.

Agreed. I find the tabular format of Cooking for Engineers excellent for this (for example, at the bottom of this brownies recipe: http://www.cookingforengineers.com/recipe/158/Dark-Chocolate... ). Julia Child's classic ( https://archive.org/details/JuliaChildMasteringTheArtOfFrenc... ) does something similar in free-form.

I get most of my recipes from YouTube these days. I can see the technique and result, which is valuable, but I make my own notes in a format that suits me, sometimes like Cooking for Engineers (group ingredients, do process, add next group, etc) but usually with a lot of bullet points and terse sentences.

Writing my own notes is great for understanding and retention. They get printed out, then tested to earn the right to a plastic sleeve and a place in the folder! Analogue with a digital backup.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by hnick »

SilverRed wrote: post #125
Brian_K_White wrote: post #77

Am I the only one who thinks that this concept is perfectly good, and all the things the site doesn't have are just great further development of the idea? What's wrong with a "wikipedia for recipes"? I would LOVE that. All the complaints about the quality of the recipes or the lack of more in-depth explaination of each one, some kind of voting/reputation system for the recipes and for the submitters and the voters, Y…

>What's wrong with a "wikipedia for recipes"? Can you imagine the state of the site after 2 power users have a holy war over whether the recipe is meant to have salt in it or not. Cooking is not objective so it would be impossible to properly collaborate or decide if an edit made the recipe better or worse.

Cooking is definitely one place that I think the saying "strong opinions, weakly held" is a great motto.

Like I have my way of doing things... and it's the best because I have my own taste profile... but I'll try your way to see if I'm wrong.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by [deleted] »

puchatek wrote: post #135
_6hmp wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

more like "unapologetic" I think? also I think somewhat coopted by right wing folks more recently.

Would that explain why the list of recipes is almost entirely noon-vegetarian?

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Re: Based Cooking

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Post by hnick »

00jimbo wrote: post #142
cratermoon wrote: post #80

You know why all these sites have pages of effluvia accompanying their recipes? Because lists of ingredients and steps are not copyrightable. A book of recipes, however, is copyrightable. On the web, to make the content copyrightable, they have to add stuff. "A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. However, where a recipe or formula is accompanied by substantial literary expression in the…

it's not really that. it's because of google's arcane search requirements. these authors want their results to appear high up in google search results and one of the ways to do it is to have all this accompanying text. because their list of ingredients and steps are still not copyrightable even if all the surrounding text is.

Yeah it's definitely SEO fluff. No one is enforcing copyright on their blog's recipe. And another site can still extract the recipe portion anyway.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by saagarjha »

cryptoz wrote: post #154
saagarjha wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not what the word means to you, that’s how you feel about content that the word is associated with. Just like “homeopathy” generally makes me think “pseudoscience” but really means “dilute a bunch of stuff and use it as medicine”. It’s natural to feel that content that is “based” to people who use that word is “cringe” to you because you disagree with their opinions on what is “based”, but it doesn’t change th…

I think you've got the definition of homeopathy incorrect. I checked wikipedia and it says, "Homeopathy or homoeopathy is a pseudoscientific system of alternative medicine." It does mean pseudoscience, specifically medicine, just like your association with it. As far as I can tell from on the usage of based I've seen, it means cringe/unpleasant/racist (depending on context).

Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It mentions that homeopathy is a pseudoscience because it would be a glaring omission for an encyclopedia if it didn’t. Homeopathy is a medical system that works as I described above, and it just so happens that it’s totally junk as well. Its usage in the context of those that practice homeopathy is not the definition that describes it as being bunk.

Similarly, “based” is used to mean the opposite of “cringe”. It just so happens that most “based” content is what others might call cringe; the video I posted above is satire of exactly this. However, it doesn’t change the meaning of the word, and in fact the joke falls apart if you redefine it this way.

Re: Based Cooking

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Post by christophilus »

woodruffw wrote: post #51

The owner of this website is a reactionary with a relatively popular YouTube channel in which he openly espouses and trades in racist talking points[1]. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2eYFnH61tmytImy1mTYvhA

Source on the racist thing? I’ve watched a number of his videos, mostly to learn various Linux tools. I’ve generally enjoyed his content and found it inoffensive; just way off the beaten path.
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