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Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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As someone who was on the road for three years, this was my biggest take away. If anything I'd treat one month as an absolute minimum. I'd prefer not to be anywhere less than 3 months. It ends up taking a week just to get truly unpacked. From that base, you can still do day trips and weekend trips.

The amount of time maybe varies by the location and the visitor, but... how much do you carry that it takes a week to unpack? Until I started travelling with my wife (and now a child too), one main lesson I learned was "you aren't going to need it" - every time I went travelling it was lighter than the trip before!

I had one carry on for clothing and a backpack for essentials and some electronics.

I guess more accurately it takes a week to get settled in. Most of that time isn't about physically removing the stuff from the bags but more about where you need to put it and what stuff you might need to go rebuy and organize, in the new country.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I left my last office job in 2017, spent the first year and a half or so traveling, and then started working remotely, making more money than I was at my office job in high cost of living city. Had the time of my life, met a lot of people, learned a lot about the world, myself, etc.

Now living as a digital nomad for over a year now I'm used to it so it's not really a big deal anymore. I care more about the people I surround myself with than the specific location. Once you've been to major cities around the world, the city/country itself stops mattering as much. I'd love to do some more exotic travel, going to really remote locations, but then you don't have usable Wifi, and even if you did the last thing you'd probably want to be doing is sitting in front of your laptop all day.

I could definitely never go back to an office job. My current employer has a small office so I've gone back every now and then for "fun", but after working remotely I don't see how anyone can go back to office life. It's not just that I don't enjoy offices, I don't think they're time efficient since there's no incentive to complete your work faster since you know you have to be there until 5:30pm or however late everyone stays. When I work out of a coffee shop, I want to be as time efficient as possible and finish my work quickly because I want to get the hell out of there and go live life.

The biggest downside of the digital nomad lifestyle I'd say is that loneliness can be a real problem, all the more compounded by government COVID restrictions (eg. limited social gatherings, curfews, etc). That's still something I don't have a great system for. Of course there are language barriers too - I'm currently in a South American country where most people don't speak any English, so as someone with very bad Spanish it's a lot harder to meet people (obviously I knew this flying here, the tradeoff for the perfect weather was worth it for me). And that being said, I definitely don't consider offices as any cure to loneliness, in fact quite the opposite.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Agreed - 3 months minimum, esp if working while traveling. This allows to alternate between excursion weekends and relaxing weekends. I also agree with the "1-2 years" content above - I'd really like to see the seasons cycle through in any particular place I stop.

At what point is this not "traveling" but rather "moving frequently".

When traveling is your lifestyle for some amount of time, I don't really think there is much of a difference while you are living that lifestyle.

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I quit my job in 2015, rode a tiny motorcycle around South America for 4 months, and then traveled the world for 2.5 more years. I made a small photo blog about it https://andrew-max.github.io/ I'm now in the process of trying to relocate full time to Colombia. I also now have an anxiety disorder I didn't start the trip with. I made a few real friends that I'm in touch with years later.

> I also now have an anxiety disorder I didn't start the trip with. Out of curiosity, was this from any particular incident, i.e. safety in south america? Or the converse, adapting back to hecticness of office life? Or something else, if you don't mind sharing.

Basically being incredibly particular about my physical living environment and having a fear of it getting messed up or having issues with it.

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Yeah, I think going out to find yourself or being transformed is mostly a fools errand. I also don't regret my travels but didn't find any of that.

Aye, same. No "regurts" as the bad tattoo says, and glad I did it, but the main takeaway for me was "the grass is greener...". Taught me to appreciate what we have and what we don't. And I guess we all need to learn that lesson eventually. I just wish I learned that in, say, Los Angeles or Denver or something, and not in a place that gave me bedbugs.

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Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Sorry, I'm confused, you want me to tell you what you're thinking, based on 4 words you typed?

Sorry, I said good faith explanation, but I meant good faith guess. I want you to explain what "Hong Kong destroyed" might mean when I say it because if we're not speaking the same language then we can't hope to see eye to eye. Clearly the city is still standing filled with people who aren't dead. Clearly it's not "destroyed" in that way. I want you to guess why I would say it, which means brainstorming potential ide…

Understood.

Well, you might mean "destroyed" from the point of view of someone who wants to advocate for Hong Kong independence from China.

Or destroyed from the point of view of someone wanting to publish certain news articles criticizing China. Or whether your university/school teachers are allowed to even mention Hong Kong independence.

Or from the point of view of investors worried about the independence of the financial system from interference / controls in the longer term. Or that they might be extradited to China for financial crimes (or even political reasons) that previously weren't a concern.

Obviously, I'm not unaware of those points of view and situations.

On the other hand, for someone running a business in Hong Kong, working a 9-to-5 job, or even at a typical multinational corporation, or growing up going to school, or settling in for retirement, or traveling to/from the city, life shows no hour-by-hour or day-to-day difference for the vast majority of people.

Whether on balance, these factors would lead someone to declare that a city (or the idea of a city) has been "destroyed" overall is I guess what we're debating.

I take the point of view that jumping without further clarification to say that Hong Kong has been destroyed, is just a bit of a fashionable hyperbolic opinion to put out there -- an opinion that heavily overweights the concerns (even legitimate concerns) of a, let's call it 1%, special subset of the population. Are you one of that group / are you from Hong Kong? If not, how did you join the concerns of the group for whom the city appears to have been destroyed, rather than the rest of the city for whom it continues with no perceptible change in daily life?

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Dating apps, couch surfing, and getting out of the house & going where the people are. Expat groups on Facebook and WhatsApp, too.

As someone with mild social anxiety, the thought of doing something like that is utterly alien, even in my own country let alone somewhere else. I don't mean in a "i wouldn't do that" sort of way, but in an "i cannot even imagine/does not compute" sort of way. Anyhow, good on you for living life :)

> even in my own country let alone somewhere else

It's much easier "somewhere else". Whatever stupid thing you do, you won't meet these people again. It's liberating.

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I've never done a trip this long, but I have to say I like your idea of traveling by land, especially by bicycle. I'm reminded of "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and his commentary of "being in the scene" instead of "watching it on the TV that is a car window" (paraphrasing here). Also going by land is cheaper, and lower impact for those who care about that. It does cut your options, requires more time, a…

That exact same sentiment from ZAMM inspired me too. I’m glad I did it on a bicycle rather than a motorbike. There’s something more human-scale and less intimidating about it. Well, in relatively populated places like Europe and India at least. I imagine I might feel differently if I cycled through the empty bits of the US or Kazakhstan.

To get a feel of what it's like to cycle through vast swaths of empty land, I highly suggest "A bivvy, a phone and a drone: cycling home from China." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmdxs_0yYwc

This man literally rode through Eurasia up to the UK, sleeping on the side of the road. I stumbled upon it recently and found it quite endearing.

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0. Experience joy. If you haven't you won't get it. The same kind of awe and joy you might have experienced the first time a compiler you wrote finishes without errors and you are able to run the executable. 1. I'd like to think it made me less intense and easier to work with at my (remote) job 2. I became more extroverted 3. I've embraced extreme uncertainty and became much more flexible and creative. Pivoting in li…

Thanks for the concrete examples! I love it. > The pandemic has been a non-event for me > When I woke up pre-pandemic on Sat morning I had 100 postcard-worthy places to choose from These statements appear contradictory.

> These statements appear contradictory.

You are right, they appear to be. Professionally, the only change is that now everybody is a little more like me and I'm less of a curiosity. On a personal level, we had a baby when the pandemic broke out last year so we've been more or less grounded because of that.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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0. Experience joy. If you haven't you won't get it. The same kind of awe and joy you might have experienced the first time a compiler you wrote finishes without errors and you are able to run the executable. 1. I'd like to think it made me less intense and easier to work with at my (remote) job 2. I became more extroverted 3. I've embraced extreme uncertainty and became much more flexible and creative. Pivoting in li…

>I have not experienced winter in 10 years As someone who travels in order to get more winter, not less, I don't see this one as a benefit! But the rest makes sense.

Haha, like I said - to each their own. To be honest I'm starting to miss winter a little bit too.
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