“Local” meaning on the same server, just in another folder, right?
Sorry, I should've phrased it better.
Local as in your home/office. While your application may run in AWS or whatever remote server, its necessary to have copies of your data that you can physically touch and access.
One main deployment, one remote backup and one onsite physically accessible backup.
I don't opening it at any point before decomissioning it completely is even an afterthought with that. They just write off any failures and roll with it as long as it's viable.
Yeah that was one of the show-stopping issues, inability to repair / hotswap etc...
Well, you only need to get shared infrastructure reliable enough that you can afford to not design it with repair in mind.
The cloud servers are already design without unit-level maintenance work in mind, which saves money by eliminating rails and similar. They get populated racks from the factory and just cart them from the dock to their place, plug them in (maybe run some self-test to make sure there are no loose connectors or so), and eventually decommission them after some years.
So you are saying they might be even better than DO depinding on requirements. I didnt know.
Much cheaper and better performance at the high end. Doesn't compete at all at the low-end, except through their budget brand Kimsufi. I don't see them really as targeting the same market.
I don't know about OVH but Hetzner beats DO at the lower end: for $5/month you get 2 CPUs vs 1, 2 GB RAM vs 1, 40 GB disk vs 25 and 20 TB traffic vs 1. They have an even lower-end package for 2.96 Euro/month as well.
Thanks for sharing this interesting story. Part of my family immigrated from Indonesia due to those riots, but I was unaware up until today of the details covered by the Wikipedia article you linked. I remember during the 2000s and 2010s that WalMart in the USA earned a reputation for it's inventories primarily consisting of Chinese-made goods. I'm not sure if that reputation goes all the way back to 1998, but it mak…
What the hell, here's another story. The summary to catch your attention: in the early 2000s, I first became aware of WalMart's full scale switch to product sourcing from China by noting some very unusual automated network to site mappings. Part of what my team (Network Management) did was write code and tools to automate all of the various things that needed to be done with networking gear. A big piece of that was a…
In the early 2000s I was working as a field engineer installing/replacing/fixing network equipment for Walmart at all hours. It's pretty neat to hear the other side of the process! If I remember correctly there was some policy that would automatically turn off switch ports that found new, unrecognized devices active on the network for an extended period of time, which meant store managers complaining to me about voip phones that didn't function when moved or replaced.
Wood is a reasonable construction material for my house, or an office - but is it for a building with that much energy kept that close together?
Treated lumber is generally considered to be fairly fireproof (comparable, though with different precise failure modes than steel or concrete). It depends on exactly what kind of wood is being used. A treated 12x12 beam is very fire resistant, plywood is less so. The issue is you'll have lots of plastic (cabling) in a DC, and plastic will burn
There is self-extinguishing cable insulation, though. I'm actually surprised this (DC flammability) is still an issue, and not already solved by making components self-extinguishing and banning non-tiny batteries inside the equipment. If you want to have a battery for your raid controller, put something next to it that will stop your system from burning down it's surroundings.
Sprinklers are only present in OVH Canada datacenter ! There are no sprinklers in Europe ones.
Given that they're headquartered in Europe and most popular there, why is the satellite location better? Is it because the Canadian data center is newer, because Canada has stronger regulations in this area, or something else? Also, does anyone know how the OVH US data centers compare?
According to a 2013 forum post by the now CEO of Scaleway, a competitor of OVH, it's due to North American building regulations that basically force you into sprinklers and stuff for insurance reasons.
They did not have a fire suppression system, only smoke detection. So yeah, they missed something.
> They did not have a fire suppression system I find it very hard to believe that that would pass code anywhere in the US/EU or most of the world. They may not have had sprinklers but that doesn't mean there isn't fire suppression.
According to a forum post discussing the building of said DC, with photos and such, there's no visible fire suppression system:
They say different here: "The rooms are also equipped with state of the art fire detection and extinction systems." https://www.ovh.com/world/solutions/centres-de-donnees.xml and here "Every data center room is fitted with a fire detection and extinction system, as well as fire doors. OVHcloud complies with the APSAD R4 rule for the installation of mobile and portable fire extinguishers and has the N4 certificate of…
That's for its North America DCs, not European ones.
I see several people talking about advanced backup systems for businesses. I do not have a company, I work as a freelancer, I am Brazilian and the current 70 euros of tuition I was paying was already compromising my income, since my local currency is quite devalued against the dollar. Then imagine the situation. my websites are down, the only backup I have was a copy of the vps that i made in november last year becau…
Well, not having managed backups is obviously part of choosing to go bare-metal. They do have triple-redundancy backups in their cloud offerings. Nobody to blame but yourself.
Also, if you’re hosting clients’ static websites, you were burning your money, there are way cheaper options out there (and fully managed).
IMO you should take this fire as evidence, that you need to have (working!) backups wherever you host your data. AWS, GCP Azure are not fire resistant, same as OVH. I don't know if OVH is more or less competent than big three, I choose to trust no one.
I read multiple times that they didn't even have sprinklers, only smoke detectors in their EU datacenter(s). I'm 100% sure AWS, Azure and Google have better fire prevention.
This thread has people saying they have sprinklers, don't have sprinklers, have / don't have gas suppression, and have puppies / actually have toilets.
Wait for the misinformation hose to dry up, and decide in a few weeks.