Always, always keep local backups folks.
“Local” meaning on the same server, just in another folder, right?
Fire declared in OVH SBG2 datacentre building
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Because of course it was Bryan :D
Actually, although the video is on Bryan Cantrill's YouTube account, that was Brendan Gregg.
I was merely the videographer! For anyone who is curious, I discussed the backstory of that video with Ben Sigelman.[0]
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#524The classic "lp0 on fire" error message comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire Really though, I feel truly awful for anyone affected by this. The post recommends implementing a disaster recovery plan. The truth is that most people don't have one. So, let's use this post to talk about Disaster Recovery Plans! Mine: I have 5 servers at OVH (not at SBG) and they all back up to Amazon S3 or Backblaze B2…
I'm at OVH as well (in the BHS datacenter, fortunately). I run my entire production system on one beefy machine. The apps and database are replicated to a backup machine hosted with Hetzner (in their Germany datacenter). I also run a tiny VM at OVH which proxies all traffic to Hetzner. I use a failover IP to point at the big rig at OVH. If the main machine fails, I move the failover IP to the VM, which sends all traf…
this is the way. I do the same. Not paranoid at all.
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So you are saying they might be even better than DO depinding on requirements. I didnt know.
Much cheaper and better performance at the high end. Doesn't compete at all at the low-end, except through their budget brand Kimsufi. I don't see them really as targeting the same market.
I rent a server from OVH for $32 a month. It's their So You Start line... doesn't come with fancy enterprise support and the like.
It's a 4 core 8 thread Xeon with 3x 1TB SATA with 32GB of ECC RAM IIRC (E3-SAT-1-32, got it during a sale with a price that is guaranteed as long as I keep renewing it)
The thing is great, I can run a bunch of VM's on it, it runs my websites and email.
Overall to get something comparable elsewhere I would be paying 3 to 4 times as much.
I would consider $50 a month or less low end pricing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Are you me, by any chance? :-) I also run our entire production system on one beefy machine at OVH, and replicate to a similar machine at Hetzner. In case of a failure, we just change DNS, which has a 1 hour TTL. We've needed to do an unplanned fail-over only once in over 10 years. And like you, I have an extra replica at the office, because it feels safe having a physical copy of the data literally at hand.
Same but with a regular offline physical copy (cheap nas). One of my worries is a malicious destruction of the backups if anything worms its way in my network
hetzner has storage boxes and auto snapshots. so even if someone deletes the backups remotely there are still snapshots which they can't get unless they have control panel access.
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#527Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you me, by any chance? :-) I also run our entire production system on one beefy machine at OVH, and replicate to a similar machine at Hetzner. In case of a failure, we just change DNS, which has a 1 hour TTL. We've needed to do an unplanned fail-over only once in over 10 years. And like you, I have an extra replica at the office, because it feels safe having a physical copy of the data literally at hand.
Not done any research into it, but I always thought OVH was supposed to be a very budget VPS service primarily for personal use rather than business. Although thought it was akin to having a Raspberry Pi plugged in at home. Again, I may be completely wrong but why would you not use AWS/GCP? Even if it's complexity, Amazon have Lightsail, or if it's cost I thought DigitalOcean was one of the only reputable business-gr…
no, OVH has dedicated servers, lot of big companies use it to build out private clouds, much cheaper then amazon or google
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Wood is a reasonable construction material. It takes a good while to start burning, and even when significantly charred it still retains most of its strength.
Wood is a reasonable construction material for my house, or an office - but is it for a building with that much energy kept that close together?
Treated lumber is generally considered to be fairly fireproof (comparable, though with different precise failure modes than steel or concrete). It depends on exactly what kind of wood is being used. A treated 12x12 beam is very fire resistant, plywood is less so.
The issue is you'll have lots of plastic (cabling) in a DC, and plastic will burn
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> Optane for your indices At OVH? If so, their US data centers don't seem to have that option. Not that I need it. The largest database I run could easily fit in RAM on a reasonably sized dedicated box.
I didn't realize they had US datacenters before now. It's possible that's no longer an option. It was on the largest servers in the Montreal datacenter when I specced that out.
they have 2 data centers in the US
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Not done any research into it, but I always thought OVH was supposed to be a very budget VPS service primarily for personal use rather than business. Although thought it was akin to having a Raspberry Pi plugged in at home. Again, I may be completely wrong but why would you not use AWS/GCP? Even if it's complexity, Amazon have Lightsail, or if it's cost I thought DigitalOcean was one of the only reputable business-gr…
OVH STARTED as a budget VPS service some 20 years ago... but they grew a lot since 6-7 years, adding more "cloud" services and capabilities, even not on par with the main players... Why not use AWS/GCP? From my personal point of view: as a French citizen, I'm more and more convinced that I can't completly trust the (US) big boys for my own safety. Trump showed that "US interest" is far more important than "customer i…
price, also elaborate hardware customizations are not possible and then you are still running on hypervisor vs baremetal.