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Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Fascinating mind if you share some more details? Do you have kids? How about family? Do you consider a city your anchor or you feel totally like a world citizen

Yes I do have a kid. She will move here with me when she finishes high school (currently lives with her mom). This kind of life is not really compatible for younger children unless you have the funds to travel with them and can home school them as you go. I try to maintain at least 3 permanent or semi-permanent bases in 3 countries but that’s now down to 2 because of the pandemic. Yes, it’s good to have a few anchor…

Fantastic details and stories, thank you.

fyi your website in your profile is not resolving.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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> Maybe it's just me; but the idea of going from one place to another for 2 weeks, to take pictures and get led around by locals tourist industry is the very definition of Western Consumerism. If you're travelling like this, you're doing it wrong. Stay much longer, not with foreigners, learn the language, get a basic job. Live like an immigrant, not a tourist, and definitely not like an American tourist.

To each their own. They’re just different forms of travel.

What exactly is the point of travelling like a stereotypical American tourist? No adventure, no challenges to overcome, no learning. Just to be able to say you've "seen Florence"?

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I didn’t travel the world. I traveled around the US. Drove through about 30 something states and visited 17 major cities. I didn’t do this over a long period of time - about 2-3 months. I’d hop from city to city every 2-5 days and try to get a feel of every place. For me, this involved a lot of driving around and visiting neighborhoods. I could get a feel for places pretty well by just driving through - I know people will critique that but it felt true for me. Back then, I was going to a lot of social dances as a way to meet people. I’d visit the local scenes and try to tell people I’m from out of town and I’d like to just kinda explore. It was an easy test to see how friendly various cities were by just seeing how receptive that crowd was. Turns out, most weren’t great. And a lot didn’t have good dancing scenes. Both were dealbreakers as I was visiting all these cities to see if I wanted to live there. (Traveling with intention - I guess. Not relaxation)

Things I took away from my trip: Never do it in the summer. It’s way too fucking hot. My cars AC broke midway and it was grueling going through the south in July/August. Secondly, driving to all these cities to get a feel was a good way to condense some of the experience but it wasn’t great. For my life, I would’ve been better served by being an extended weekend warrior and visiting cities during popular dance events. This wouldn’t give a fair representation of the city but at least I’d see what it could be. Lastly, I found out that almost guaranteed no matter where I was going to live - it was going to be really tough because I had no friends in those cities. And I learned not having friends in cities when you visit them and when you visit them solo is lonely and isolating. You’re constantly putting yourself in a very difficult situation where people who see you as a random person on the street have to suddenly go from 0 to best friend in a matter of minutes for anything meaningful to happen. I found this behavior exceedingly rare from the other side. I’m also not very physically attractive, rich, or some status symbol. So, there was no real reason for established people to interact with me. Only transplants would have an interest and that overall trip just confirmed everything I believed about living in the US.

After it, I still judged people who never left where they grew up or where all their friends were but I understood exactly why they did it. Moving to other places every 2-3 years is absolutely devastating to your social life because after 2-3 years you usually start to feel like you’ve finally made some progress. Just to see it reset to zero again.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I left my job when I was in my late 20's to make a year-long round-the-world trip. Leading up to it, I was up for a promotion at work and my managers and colleagues were very skeptical about my decision to leave at such a time. I'm so glad I stuck my guns. It was easily one of the best decisions I ever made.

My partner, who I had recently started dating at the time, was unhappy with her job and also decided to take the leap. In 2011, we spent 313 days traveling around the world together. Ten years later, we're still together!

As for trip logistics, very little was planned in advance. We both gave up our apartments and put our belongings in storage with friends and family. We started the trip with one-way tickets from the USA to Asuncion, Paraguay. Not a common first destination on a RTW trip, but we had used miles and the cost was the same price to go to a relatively obscure place rather than a more common one. Paraguay is a fun one if you are vegan/vegetarian, but that's another story.

Prior to the trip I had stockpiled a decent amount of frequent flyer miles. The late 2000's were crazy with respect to mile program promotions, but that's a whole different story! Those miles helped offset most of the long-haul travel costs but on the ground we preferred to travel as cheaply as possible with buses, trains, etc. The main thing the miles enabled was access more remote and uncommon destinations. As an example, one of our travel days took us from Mongolia to Palau. I don't think that's a common origin-destination pair.

I will second what others have posted here about moving slow. The places we have the fondest memories of are the ones where we spent the most time. This cuts both ways though. When you are traveling/living this lifestyle it can take some effort to find that magical mix of affordable housing, good food, and interesting activities. When all those factors align, it's easy to "get stuck" and then later have to cut things from the larger itinerary. Burn out from being on the road is another real factor. We felt it strongly at about the 6 month mark, which, conveniently was timing with a detour back home for my brother's wedding. After that we were eager to get back on the road.

Regarding costs, we found the trip to be quite affordable. Our burn rate over the year averaged out to 1000 USD per month per person, however, we had intentionally avoided the more expensive parts of the world (e.g., Europe, OZ/NZ, etc.). Aside from a few splurges, we chose to stay in budget hotels/guesthouses wherever possible. We had also offset much of our long-haul travel costs with airline points/miles.

I would love to take a trip like this again and I'm glad I didn't save this experience for retirement. I can't speak highly enough of doing something like this if you have the means.

If anyone is interested in more details about the trip, I kept a blog here:

http://www.roamingryan.com/

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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When I quit my job and went travelling I used this framework: 1. Go via land. You see everything in between all the places you should see as a tourist. You immerse yourself in how a place actually feels. You meet people who aren’t just trying to extract money from you. I cycled, because I like cycling, but any form of transport works. 2. My algorithm was something like “Go east. Stay somewhere if it’s interesting, un…

Why did I follow him...? I don't know. Why do things happen as they do in dreams? All I know is that, when he beckoned... I had to follow him. From that moment, we traveled together, East. Always... into the East

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Absolutely worth it, however I'd offer a few short tips: 1. Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. If you can stay a year or two, do that. Jumping from city to city every week seems exciting at first, but it quickly makes everywhere feel the same. 2. To quote Lao Tzu, when your work is done, forget it. If you work remotely, actively disconnect at the end of the day. It's too easy to be constantly plugged…

> 3. Try to blend in and adopt local clothing, culture, foods, etc. Read books by local authors, watch local films. A bit obvious, maybe, but I've met many people who insisted on only eating Western food, reading Harry Potter, and watching Netflix while abroad. At that point, why even bother traveling? Depends on the purpose/intentions of the travel. While I feel similarly about much of my own travel as you do, it's…

This post is specifically about traveling the world while working though, not a relaxing beach holiday - so I think the advice is valid on that basis.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I tried it, and had a different experience than most I presume, because I got sick pretty much immediately [1]. Overall, I think that it comes down to time management, and expectations. The world is a wonderful place if you are prepared for both its beauty and its uglier sides. You see both while nomading. [1]: https://medium.com/@_bramses/yes-i-was-a-digital-nomad-no-it...

So you decided to do the nomad thing, arrived in Mexico, got sick, and gave up in 4 days? I don't think that says absolutely anything about traveling the world, except maybe that sometimes you get sick when traveling?

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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As someone who was on the road for three years, this was my biggest take away. If anything I'd treat one month as an absolute minimum. I'd prefer not to be anywhere less than 3 months. It ends up taking a week just to get truly unpacked. From that base, you can still do day trips and weekend trips.

Agreed - 3 months minimum, esp if working while traveling. This allows to alternate between excursion weekends and relaxing weekends. I also agree with the "1-2 years" content above - I'd really like to see the seasons cycle through in any particular place I stop.

At what point is this not "traveling" but rather "moving frequently".

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Absolutely worth it, however I'd offer a few short tips: 1. Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. If you can stay a year or two, do that. Jumping from city to city every week seems exciting at first, but it quickly makes everywhere feel the same. 2. To quote Lao Tzu, when your work is done, forget it. If you work remotely, actively disconnect at the end of the day. It's too easy to be constantly plugged…

> 3. Try to blend in and adopt local clothing, culture, foods, etc. Read books by local authors, watch local films. A bit obvious, maybe, but I've met many people who insisted on only eating Western food, reading Harry Potter, and watching Netflix while abroad. At that point, why even bother traveling? Depends on the purpose/intentions of the travel. While I feel similarly about much of my own travel as you do, it's…

Hmm, maybe it's an American thing but when I say 'travel' it really doesn't include a beach holiday. That would be called 'vacation' or 'a trip'. 'Travel', to me at least, implies some sort of cultural/sightseeing intent, even if it's just going to Paris for a visit to the Louvre and a few nice meals but talking to nobody.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I'd love to hear concretely what you guys who traveled actually gained from traveling the world? Because I always hear that it's really exciting and you get to go to exciting places - but what exactly did you gain in terms of perspectives besides your instagram pictures and cocktail stories? I've never get beyond this superficial in hearing people's travel stories online and IRL. Maybe it's just me; but the idea of g…

If I had to list one thing it would be this:

People everywhere, regardless of their race, religion, politics, or wealth are generally decent and primarily interested in making a better living for themselves and their family.

Some may see this as an obvious fact about human nature. However, for someone like me who grew up viewing the world through the lens of the US media, I used to think otherwise. Travel fundamentally changed my views in this regard.

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