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Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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I'm not sure. Recruiters can spray and pray with candidates the way candidates can spray and pray with applications. They're not going to be great quality, but if you're paid commission on a hire and the recruitment channel can handle the load... what's to stop the recruiter?

Spray and pay works for sending people a little underqualified for a job. Sending people who don't know why they've been put forward for a job under false pretences just means the client won't interview any more candidates you send, especially if that candidate is plenty employable enough not to bother bluffing their way through. And unlike candidates, recruiters can potentially get paid to fill a lot of a company's…

> Sending people who don't know why they've been put forward for a job under false pretences [...]

Isn't this called 'consulting'?

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Had the almost exact same experience, but with Java. I'm a C# developer and although I have some experience with Java, I don't have enough to list it as a skill on my CV. Anyways, in this interview I was being asked about Java and I answered every question by saying I don't really know Java. The interviewers were obviously getting annoyed. So I asked "Sorry, I thought this was a C# job?". No, it was a Java job and ma…

The recruiter was in idiot but not to consider c# dev for Java job is quite silly too.

I think it also depends on the role. If the role expects a deep dive into the language and its ecosystem (more of a senior role), then the ramp up time is longer. But if it is a more junior role where you are just implementing stuff using core components of the language, then it should be easy enough to make the switch.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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> That way, when candidates were pitched to us with "X years of MOVA experience", we knew that somebody was full of it. I'd put my money on the recruiter. I once had an excruciatingly awkward interview at a company on an industrial estate in the middle of nowhereland with no train station nearby that took me bloody ages to get to… which was actually going well until they asked me about my long experience with Exchang…

I've had a recruiter from a recruiting agency and a HR person at a company (different jobs) ask me to update my resume with something I wasn't comfortable with.

I didn't do it, both still offered me interviews and the focus of the interview was those technologies. I pointed out that it wasn't on my resume and yup it wasn't, everyone seemed confused.

At the time I was trying to break into the industry and didn't feel like telling them.

I really just want to talk to some technical folks at the company, 10 minutes and if they're honest we probably both know if I'm a good fit or not... but rather it's recruiter and HR filters up the wazoo.

The whole thing is a stupid game where companies, recruiters, and etc don't know what they're talking about, play alphabet soup, ghost people ... and then get upset when it happens to them...

The whole process seems disconnected and shockingly dishonest.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Had the almost exact same experience, but with Java. I'm a C# developer and although I have some experience with Java, I don't have enough to list it as a skill on my CV. Anyways, in this interview I was being asked about Java and I answered every question by saying I don't really know Java. The interviewers were obviously getting annoyed. So I asked "Sorry, I thought this was a C# job?". No, it was a Java job and ma…

The recruiter was in idiot but not to consider c# dev for Java job is quite silly too.

Honestly unless a candidate would have to learn to code in a significantly different paradigm (eg has only OOP experience and the work is in Erlang), I can’t think of a reason why prior experience with the language would be an issue.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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My head, too. That's a pretty high-flying joke, and I'm happy that the other comment cleared up the situation for us ground dwellers.

"Yazyk - Язык" is "language" is Russian. You know, because Russia took Crimea and eastern Ukraine is in civil war. I learned Russian just so I could make politically edgy jokes, so this seemed like a good opportunity. Hopefully this will allow other ground dwellers to have a chuckle.

Russia annexed Crimea, and eastern Ukraine has been invaded by Russia, which is currently mostly using proxies in place of its own regular army, but these proxies have been created, trained, financed and armed entirely by Russia, and are therefore not a side in a civil war. Choice of words matters.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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> Now that is why if I ever have to send my CV to someone it will only be a PDF version. This doesn't always help either though. I have only ever sent PDFs to recruiters for this reason. Yet I have still had a recruiter completely rewrite my resume and add false information. I generally keep a resume on me when I go to an interview just in case an interviewer had not seen it. I'm glad I do that.

would digitally signing and marking as no changes possible after signing work?

No, because when companies receive an unsigned resume (after modification), it will look like every other unsigned resume they receive

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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post #470

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Also strong independent labor unions.

Why on earth would anyone downvote this?

I think HN has been recently overtaken by a lot of very neoliberal people who preach unregulated capitalism very hard.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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post #470

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Why on earth would anyone downvote this?

I think HN has been recently overtaken by a lot of very neoliberal people who preach unregulated capitalism very hard.

A world where basic income isn't downvoted, but strong trade unions or anti-trust laws are is a weird one.
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