We created a fake language to root out resume liars

Post by dmos62 » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 4:15 PM UTC

rrmm wrote: post #335

dmos62 wrote: post #199

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Well yes, Greenknight gets his head lobed off, but he then puts it back on. The scary part is that in a year's time he'll get to return the favor (but doesn't, because it was a test of chivalry (and the protagonist was chivalrous)). Wikipedia has a synopsis.

Sure, but Gawain only finds that it's a test after the fact (by surviving the test due to his virtuousness). So my take away was always something along the lines of don't play games whose stakes you may not fully understand against people whose power you may not fully appreciate especially if it doesn't seem like there is a downside.

Post by ufmace » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 4:16 PM UTC

pacman2 wrote: post #244

brigandish wrote: post #77

> That way, when candidates were pitched to us with "X years of MOVA experience", we knew that somebody was full of it. I'd put my money on the recruiter. I once had an excruciatingly awkward interview at a company on an industrial estate in the middle of nowhereland with no train station nearby that took me bloody ages to get to… which was actually going well until they asked me about my long experience with Exchang…

"The whole recruitment process seems broken " The IT market is pretty good compared to other fields but in the and, the market might have collapsed already. ""The Market for Lemons: Quality Uncertainty and the Market Mechanism" is a well-known[1][2] 1970 paper by economist George Akerlof which examines how the quality of goods traded in a market can degrade in the presence of information asymmetry between buyers and…

Post by Tempest1981 » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 4:16 PM UTC

mysterydip wrote: post #441

Ankhers wrote: post #424

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> Now that is why if I ever have to send my CV to someone it will only be a PDF version. This doesn't always help either though. I have only ever sent PDFs to recruiters for this reason. Yet I have still had a recruiter completely rewrite my resume and add false information. I generally keep a resume on me when I go to an interview just in case an interviewer had not seen it. I'm glad I do that.

would digitally signing and marking as no changes possible after signing work?

Post by jschwartzi » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 4:17 PM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #227

dempseye wrote: post #209

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The recruiter did good work here. I suspect this was a screw up in internal HR. The external recruiter has absolutely no incentive to send you for an interview you will bomb out of.

I'm not sure. Recruiters can spray and pray with candidates the way candidates can spray and pray with applications. They're not going to be great quality, but if you're paid commission on a hire and the recruitment channel can handle the load... what's to stop the recruiter?

Post by jschwartzi » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 4:19 PM UTC

buu700 wrote: post #331

indeed30 wrote: post #289

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Yes, recruiters have accounts with companies, but in my experience the recruitment fee is a percentage of salary, and the individual recruiter compensation is on a commission model. In short, I personally have no problems in believing that the higher the salary, the higher the payment to both the recruitment company and individual recruiter. However, I think we all know that closing the deal is far more important to…

I haven't worked with a recruiter, so this is pure speculation, but it seems to me that a recruiter's greatest incentive would be to close any deal at all as quickly as possible, because they're competing against the alternative of you finding a position on your own first (or otherwise no longer requiring their services). Getting you a high salary is just gravy.