Bats and the Origin of Outbreaks

Outside of reactionary comments about banning eating bats and banning "wet markets", I wish there was more serious discussion about how intensive animal farming in general could lead to another pandemic and what we're going to do about it. We're just going to continue as normal until a pandemic kicks off from cows, pigs or chickens?

On top of just the number of animals treated with antibiotics being kept in close proximity to help a virus mutate, there's also the animal waste produced, the land required and the contributions to climate change that are destroying the environment and displacing species.

Re: Bats and the Origin of Outbreaks

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Post by controlweather » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 11:46 AM UTC

What a stupid article

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Post by ovi256 » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 11:49 AM UTC

The WHO seems to be under Chinese control. Their investigations should not be expected to embarrass China in any way. They'll produce an innocuous conclusion.

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Post by 0x737368 » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:14 PM UTC

How about it leaking from a research facility?

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Post by chasil » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:17 PM UTC

seanwilson wrote: post #5

> Changes in the environment are driving displaced species of animals into new habitats, allowing them to mix with other species or potential hosts. Outside of reactionary comments about banning eating bats and banning "wet markets", I wish there was more serious discussion about how intensive animal farming in general could lead to another pandemic and what we're going to do about it. We're just going to continue as…

There is considerable suspicion that SARS-CoV-2 was enhanced by the Wuhan lab. The simple fact that the species carrying the closest relative of this epidemic was a thousand miles away from Wuhan and was not present at the wet markets in any capacity is sufficient to doubt the narrative.

If we want to safeguard our species from zoonotic pandemics, instead of weaponizing them, then a vaccination effort would be better directed at the source.

Perhaps an international effort to identify dangerous zoonotic pathogens and address them within their natural hosts is preferable to what COVID-19 has forced us to endure.

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Post by nisa » Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:18 PM UTC

Alina Chan looks from a scientific perspektive at the lableak hypothesis and it's unresolved as far as I know: https://twitter.com/Ayjchan

Bascially we don't know and probably won't know. The conflict of interest with the WHO mission is pretty clear.

Beyond any politicization of the issue it's interesting to learn about the possibilities and risks in that research area.