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Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I agree with your points, just want to add: The best way to connect with the culture and people is to get a local job, or studying at a local university or at least taking courses. EDIT: Basically become an immigrant, even if it's only for a couple of months. Ideally don't plan your return, make your journeys open ended!

I have a question to people saying "get a local job" What kind of jobs do you mean? Doesn't it look suspicious for a middle aged guy who looks from a different part of the world trying to get a job he clearly does not need? To clarify, I don't feel above any job, when I first emigrated 12 years ago I was cleaning toilets and working construction, but I had no qualifications and I didnt meet anyone fun. I am also a TE…

I’m thinking of restaurant work and similar.

I don’t think you need to worry about that, in more exotic locations you will be so out of place anyway and they will have no way to judge if you’re rich or poor. And in any case people generally don’t care that much about others.

And even when they do, just accept it, it’s pretty unlikely anyone will resent you.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Absolutely worth it, however I'd offer a few short tips: 1. Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. If you can stay a year or two, do that. Jumping from city to city every week seems exciting at first, but it quickly makes everywhere feel the same. 2. To quote Lao Tzu, when your work is done, forget it. If you work remotely, actively disconnect at the end of the day. It's too easy to be constantly plugged…

How do you manage to stay long-term on a foreign country, immigration-wise?

It can be a huge hassle if you are independently employed, even in a country with lax visa requirements.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Yeah, I think going out to find yourself or being transformed is mostly a fools errand. I also don't regret my travels but didn't find any of that.

Wherever you go, there you are. At first I just found that line funny, but the more I've traveled, the truer I've found it to be. A change in scenery can be immensely helpful in many ways, but you'll still relate to the world in fundamentally the same way once you're somewhere else.

I love that line, and it captures the nub of something deep about how we do and don't evolve through new experiences.

I do think we underestimate how much impact travel and exposure to other cultures can have, we don't feel "transformed", I like to think of it a bit like having a child, before you do so, it's possible to be completely clueless about a whole bunch of stuff, afterwards, you're still the same person, but there are hundreds of ideas and topics that you are aware of and understand to some level that you didn't before. What's more, you can tell quickly whether another person has similar knowledge. Something like growing older and (hopefully) wiser, but accelerated and pushed in new directions.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I'd love to hear concretely what you guys who traveled actually gained from traveling the world? Because I always hear that it's really exciting and you get to go to exciting places - but what exactly did you gain in terms of perspectives besides your instagram pictures and cocktail stories? I've never get beyond this superficial in hearing people's travel stories online and IRL. Maybe it's just me; but the idea of g…

Of everything I learned and experienced in traveling one thing stands out above all the others: "self improvement is the primary good in your life"

Traveling involves a lot of hedonism, and one day while traveling you suddenly realize you are on a hedonic treadmill. The first amazing meal you eat is life changing. The second one is about 50% as novel and good as that. Then you're comparing the next meal to 2 others, and the meal after that to 3 others... The cycle continues until you have consumed the earth and achieved emptiness. What remains is yourself. Once there is nothing left to consume to satisfy yourself you really have to ask whats next. The answer is building, and probably building yourself.

The lessons I learned about myself were some of the most hard:

  - I understood escapism is not the answer
  - I got a realistic set of priorities for my life
  - I challenged and surprised myself socially
  - I learned what really matters and what doesn't
More explicit examples of things I appreciate from having traveled:

  - Someone broke down to me why china is the way it is from an informed and educated position in a way I found mostly compelling
  - Visiting Shenzhen made me afraid for America
  - I experienced Hong Kong before china destroyed it.
  - I watched history in real time (NK trump, HK, covid)
  - I saw a Chinese person shrink to 1/4 their size when a conversation got political
  - I see video of foreign countries and I see streets I have literally walked on
  - I experienced being a guest in multiple different cultures and was culture shocked to my core.
  - I saw the insides of homes and buildings in different cultures as well as the different ways things were constructed
  - I experienced the inhumanity that poverty causes
  - I experienced real life poverty and actual real happening today slavery
  - I have seen the costs of not having rule of law
  - I have seen pollution on the scale you cannot even imagine until you experience it
  - I experienced my own privilege in very visceral ways
  - I have experienced cultures without workers rights and its effects
  - I have experienced multiple civil protests in other countries
  - I have seen what its like to be in a functioning democracy
  - I have been in a country where the voting system makes sense
  - I have been around police officers that made me feel more safe instead of less safe
  - I have made multiple friends I still talk to
  - I almost fell in love
  - I visited a major holy site and saw religion being practiced in a way I never had before.
  - I have seen cultures in decline and cultures on the rise and how the people in them act and function
  - I experienced being in cities older than my country
  - I met people from parts of the world I wasn't aware of, with histories I'd never heard of
  - I saw foreign propaganda first hand
  - I found ways of life I liked better (and not) than what I grew up in
  - I saw both how good things can be and how bad things can be
  - I experienced pro-diversity cultures and anti-diversity cultures and their effects
  - I was exposed to multiple different non conventional ways of life
  - I have several outstanding invites and opportunities to visit people I have met who were also traveling.
  - I saved one person's life with some first aid
  - I learned several new skills

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Absolutely worth it, however I'd offer a few short tips: 1. Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. If you can stay a year or two, do that. Jumping from city to city every week seems exciting at first, but it quickly makes everywhere feel the same. 2. To quote Lao Tzu, when your work is done, forget it. If you work remotely, actively disconnect at the end of the day. It's too easy to be constantly plugged…

> Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. I second this. 2 months is the minimum amount of time per country, and 2 weeks per city if you expect to get anything more than a handful of good meals and a couple adventures out of a place. My better memories were all from places I stayed for over 2 months, and all have more to do with people I met than the place itself.

My friend met someone travelling who consciously focussed on creating new and interesting experiences and connections with people, rather than actual places. It led him to some pretty awesome and amazing adventures.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I'd love to hear concretely what you guys who traveled actually gained from traveling the world? Because I always hear that it's really exciting and you get to go to exciting places - but what exactly did you gain in terms of perspectives besides your instagram pictures and cocktail stories? I've never get beyond this superficial in hearing people's travel stories online and IRL. Maybe it's just me; but the idea of g…

I find travel/experiences is a terrible way to make yourself a more interesting person. Some people can tell a story about a drunken brawl in a foreign country and make it boring. Another person can describe getting coffee in the morning and leave people hanging on their every word.

This is so true. There is no preparation for how little people care about your travel experiences.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I'd love to hear concretely what you guys who traveled actually gained from traveling the world? Because I always hear that it's really exciting and you get to go to exciting places - but what exactly did you gain in terms of perspectives besides your instagram pictures and cocktail stories? I've never get beyond this superficial in hearing people's travel stories online and IRL. Maybe it's just me; but the idea of g…

I spent 3.5 months backpacking in India and Southeast Asia. I saw incredible places and stood in a hundred postcards. For me though, people are what had the most impact.

Tens of thousands of Hindus come to die in Varanasi each year. If you die and are cremated there, you are freed from the cycle of rebirth and can attain salvation. I stood with an Indian friend on the edge of tears as I watched them burn the dead. He asked me why I was sad, and I told him I was sad for the dead. He said do not be sad, this is the way they wanted to die.

We were warned never to get a train ticket on Indian Railways below 2nd class. It wasn't safe. There were only enough 2nd class tickets for my friends, so I went to 3rd class alone, in the middle of the night, and went to sleep in a top bunk, the warnings echoing in my mind. When I awoke my 5 neighbors were speaking softly to each other. They shared food with me they had brought from their homes. We showed each other where we had come from and pictures of our families. I didn't speak the same language.

Cambodia had 25% of its people starved or murdered less than a decade before I was born: Year Zero. Anyone educated was the first to go. We hired a tuk-tuk driver to take us to the temples around Siem Reap. He was the son of farmers. At one temple we came out the entrance and snuck up on him while he waited for us. In his lap he held open a book in English, and tucked into it a smaller book. It was a Khmer-English dictionary.

I had a lot of good times meeting people at hostels and going to bars with other travelers, a few of whom have become dear friends. You could easily stay with tour groups, never leave the westernized areas of anywhere you go, and take lots of selfies in incredible places. It brings money to the local economy.

It's up to you though. If that's not what you want, getting away from it is as simple as walking 2 blocks in any direction.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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Absolutely worth it, however I'd offer a few short tips: 1. Try to stay in one place for a few months, minimum. If you can stay a year or two, do that. Jumping from city to city every week seems exciting at first, but it quickly makes everywhere feel the same. 2. To quote Lao Tzu, when your work is done, forget it. If you work remotely, actively disconnect at the end of the day. It's too easy to be constantly plugged…

> A bit obvious, maybe, but I've met many people who insisted on only eating Western food[...] At that point, why even bother traveling?

Whenever I have a guide (either professional or a local friend), this is often strangely a lot of work. Particularly the tour companies I've gone with in China insist on trying to get me a Western breakfast. If I wanted pancakes and sausage I would have just stayed at home and cooked my own! Give me the stuff you like. I may not end up liking it, but there's a pretty decent chance I will.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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My partner and I took a year out for all of 2018 and travelled for 365 days, aged 34. We went to 21 countries during that time, the route: UK India Hong Kong Vietnam Cambodia Laos Thailand Russia Mongolia China Tibet Japan Malaysia Indonesia Australia New Zealand Fiji Hawaii North America Chile Bolivia Peru Colombia Brazil We saw many wonders of the world (from various lists) including Taj Mahal, Angkor Wot, Great Ba…

How do you plan such things and how do you keep your safety? I always wonder how many people get mugged or even dead during such trips?

Although you have to be careful in some places, the world is scarier on TV that in real life.

Re: Ask HN: Those who quit their jobs to travel the world, how did it go?

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I did it back in 2014. I was kind of burned out, I decided to quit, I bought a ticket to New Zealand (going from EU), booked a bed in hostel for 2 nights and thought I'd figure out the rest on the way.

It was an amazing experience, I spent around 11 months traveling, I attended a few conferences and meetups, met tons of people, faced my fears (I am afraid of heights and deep water, so I did bungee jump and picked up scuba diving), made me deal with a lot of uncertainties.

Eventually I got tired of it (I traveled too fast, it was more of backpacking than nomad-ing) and decided to find a job in one of places I visited - I ended up moving to Singapore for 4 years, where I met my current wife.

Overall if I was about to do it again, I'd do it differently, but still it was one of the best decisions I made in my life. I wouldn't say it really changed the way I see the world or something, but it resulted in so many fantastic memories.

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