UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
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Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#2Hopefully such things bring forced availability of rare spare parts. If cookie cutter capacitors break, that's nothing really since you can just order them on Mouser et al.
But if a more special part breaks, say a custom voltage regulator to a game console (just since I saw a video on that fail yesterday), I would like for a repair center to be able to buy one such for a reasonable price and have the 500$ console repaired for perhaps 100$ - not scrap it.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#3Hopefully such things bring forced availability of rare spare parts. If cookie cutter capacitors break, that's nothing really since you can just order them on Mouser et al. But if a more special part breaks, say a custom voltage regulator to a game console (just since I saw a video on that fail yesterday), I would like for a repair center to be able to buy one such for a reasonable price and have the 500$ console rep…
I fear the replacement parts for such a repair will be the entire power supply pcb or enclosure as oppose to the discrete failed components. Therefore complying with the law but likely still expensive compared to new.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#4That will make everything more expensive since manufacturers will have to have a huge stock of spare parts, probably most of them are not going to be used ever.
Why can't they just make a rule that people can fix things and that's it. The whole problem is not with spare parts to washing machines but with companies like apple not letting you open their devices intentionally, this is the problem they had to deal with. It is the same thing like this cookie message stupidity.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#5Would be great if they defined what is a spare part. Somehow I have a feeling that this is just a PR to shut right to repair campaigns down by saying "look we have implemented this, what else do you want?" Reality will be you still won't be able to buy individual custom ICs with their datasheets but whole PCBs at a prices only slightly cheaper than a new product.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#6Would be great if they defined what is a spare part. Somehow I have a feeling that this is just a PR to shut right to repair campaigns down by saying "look we have implemented this, what else do you want?" Reality will be you still won't be able to buy individual custom ICs with their datasheets but whole PCBs at a prices only slightly cheaper than a new product.
Shhh... You're going to give them ideas... :-)
Now, at least there's a law. Then in a few years, other will want to widen that law, etc. In the end, we'll get there...
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#7Only a matter of time before they modify the Law to introduce a catch that makes it practically worthless.
A - A classification system that makes defines how "easy" it is to repair something, but necessarily doesn't mean that you or I can repair it at home.It will be "easy" IF you have the right 50,000 GBP tool.
B - Modify right to repair as good for the environment rule. There will be an escape clause that says that right to repair can be suspended, if the product is very eco-friendly (or needs specialized, exotic materials for construction). Manufacturers will take this route by claiming that they use "exotic" materials and therefoere cannot allow users to repair it at home.
Given how much of EU innovation is bogged down by regulatory capture, I am extremely skeptical of this (note, I know EU/UK are separated, but nevertheless, lobbying is lobbying, universally)
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#8Hopefully such things bring forced availability of rare spare parts. If cookie cutter capacitors break, that's nothing really since you can just order them on Mouser et al. But if a more special part breaks, say a custom voltage regulator to a game console (just since I saw a video on that fail yesterday), I would like for a repair center to be able to buy one such for a reasonable price and have the 500$ console rep…
I suspect the multitude of little plastic catches, clips, switches, levers etc that everything contains now are the major source of appliances being junked.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#9When everything is a commodity it's hard to see how this will be useful.
When an appliance (fridge, cooker, washing machine) breaks, it's cheaper to replace. I cannot see how repairing a TV will ever be cheaper than just replacing it since they are so cheap brand new.
This also applies to smartphones, none of the popular models have replaceable batteries so in the trash they go and they become worthless, even if the hardware could keep up for 10 years often the software is outdated, inseceure and not worth using.
I'll be hard pressed to believe this will result in anything tangible. The real test is if they can convince Apple to make Louis' job easier, wouldn't that be nice.
Re: UK 'Right to repair' law to come in this summer
#10When everything is a commodity it's hard to see how this will be useful. When an appliance (fridge, cooker, washing machine) breaks, it's cheaper to replace. I cannot see how repairing a TV will ever be cheaper than just replacing it since they are so cheap brand new. This also applies to smartphones, none of the popular models have replaceable batteries so in the trash they go and they become worthless, even if the…
> When an appliance (fridge, cooker, washing machine) breaks, it's cheaper to replace.
Depends how much you paid for it, where you live, what it means to procure one, etc.
Also, cost might not be the only factor for you. Ethic, preferences, attachment or logistic can kick in.