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Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by goatinaboat »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #7
A12-B wrote: post #3

I admire resume liars. The job market isn't fair and you should do anything you can to get ahead. (Employers are going to pull tricks like this, so why not? Just be smart about it)

I guess you wouldn’t be upset if a business lied to you about compensation, since you have no problem with a prospective employee lying about what they bring to the table.

if a business lied to you about compensation

Exaggerating the possibility of a bonus or of the value of stock options is completely normal for employers.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by Animats »

mssundaram wrote: post #30
lsh123 wrote: post #20

Long long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used requirement in job postings “10 years of Java experience” (when Java was about 7 years old) as a filter: people who wrote me complaining about unrealistic requirement got interviews; people who sent resumes with 15 years of Java went into /dev/null

That's really lousy, I wouldn't have even bothered applying to that because I'd assume you had unrealistic expectations or no idea what you are talking about.

Yes. I've seen job ads asking for N years of experience in something < N years old. The assumption is that the ad is from a bottom-feeder headhunter.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by karlding »

sdoering wrote: post #26

This reminded me of a talk [1] at pyData Berlin some years ago. Vincent demonstrated how he used some ML techniques to create fake pokemon sounding names to put into his LinkedIn resume. So that he could filter out headhunters without any real knowledge. To quote from my notes [2] of the conference: > There is a striking phonetic similarity between big data technology and pokemon names. Can you create a service that…

There's also a Pokemon or Big Data quiz [0].

[0] http://pixelastic.github.io/pokemonorbigdata/

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by vagrantJin »

It baffles me why anyone would lie about the languages they know. Why.

Always tell half truths, never whole lies. I live in a country where companies distrust former startup founders regardless of exit. So when a good opportunity cones around - people pretend to have been merely working for said startup instead of the guy running it. Thats a good lie.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by bdcravens »

To be fair, there's not many more CF jobs than MOVA jobs these days :-)

On a serious note, there was a moment when candidates were claiming to have 10+ years of Rails experience when DHH was literally the only person in existence who could make that claim

https://www.strategic-options.com/insight/2019/06/13/you-can...

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by fergie »

I find it particularly ironic that it has fallen to a Facebook group of Cold Fusion programmers to call out poor choices.

Those of us who actually worked at 1st generation dotcoms know that absolutely nobody had any idea what they were doing, even at the "proper" ones, and things were moving so fast that you absolutely _had_ to fake it until you made it.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by Puts »

I would say any one using external recruiters are setting themself up to employing liars. Searching for jobs it's incredibly frustrating talking to a person who for once can't answer any technical questions of what the job is about, but also just crossing of a bucket list to see if you are qualified to talk to another recruiter with a bucket list. Instead of competing with liars I've just stopped applying for jobs going through external recruiters.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by selcuka »

ALittleLight wrote: post #10

This reminds me of an anecdote I read once, maybe in Liars Poker, about how lots of people applying to this hedge fund put "Chess" on their resume somewhere thinking it made them seem like a deep or strategic thinker. As it happened, at this hedge fund there worked a former Soviet master or grandmaster ranked player. And so, whenever interviewing any candidate who claimed great proficiency with chess on their resume,…

That's a bit unfair though. I wouldn't take "great proficiency with chess" on a resume as grandmaster level.

Re: We created a fake language to root out resume liars

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Post by lsh123 »

mssundaram wrote: post #30
lsh123 wrote: post #20

Long long time ago in a galaxy far far away I used requirement in job postings “10 years of Java experience” (when Java was about 7 years old) as a filter: people who wrote me complaining about unrealistic requirement got interviews; people who sent resumes with 15 years of Java went into /dev/null

That's really lousy, I wouldn't have even bothered applying to that because I'd assume you had unrealistic expectations or no idea what you are talking about.

I was (and still am) interested in hiring people who would challenge manager, TL, ... and speak up if they think something is not right. That was just one of the filters.
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