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Re: Webmention.io

#61

Post by 52-6F-62 »

xrd wrote: post #10

At first, I didn't get it. Pingbacks, isn't that from the 90s? Then, I thought: does this mean the bar for joining a conversation on my publication is that you have to publish something too? That seems like a nice bar to set for asking both parties in a conversation to be fully engaged. Trolls seem like they will be too lazy to do that.

Which is closer to how opinion and editorial columns operate in traditional/print publications.

General reader responses are curated into a "Letters to the Editor" section, whereas the real discussion tended to happen between columnists in their respective columns.

That in contrast to what seems to be the popular misunderstanding—that columnists' opinion columns are summaries of an entire publication's political and philosophical stance.

Re: Webmention.io

#62

Post by gagege »

dbeley wrote: post #59

I'm too young to know what are webmentions or pingbacks (love the band Pinback though), you should briefly mention what they are on your homepage.

Wow, I'm not alone. I knew there had to be other Pinback fans out there :)

Re: Webmention.io

#64

Post by hashkb »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #61
xrd wrote: post #10

At first, I didn't get it. Pingbacks, isn't that from the 90s? Then, I thought: does this mean the bar for joining a conversation on my publication is that you have to publish something too? That seems like a nice bar to set for asking both parties in a conversation to be fully engaged. Trolls seem like they will be too lazy to do that.

Which is closer to how opinion and editorial columns operate in traditional/print publications. General reader responses are curated into a "Letters to the Editor" section, whereas the real discussion tended to happen between columnists in their respective columns. That in contrast to what seems to be the popular misunderstanding—that columnists' opinion columns are summaries of an entire publication's political and…

I think modern TV news has eroded all trust that organizations can have more than one opinion / host a civil debate. It's prudent now to assume every news organization has an agenda, no matter how it (says it) conducts itself.

Re: Webmention.io

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Post by throwanem »

aaronpk wrote: post #25
Klonoar wrote: post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

I'd happily accept a PR to the docs! I launched this service in... 2012

Now you have one! (I fixed a typo and added a note about the presence of a CORS header on responses, too.)

Re: Webmention.io

#66

Post by wholien »

incanus77 wrote: post #56
incanus77 wrote: post #13

Excellent concept, project & service. I'm using it together with Brid.gy[1] on my Hugo-hosted blog[2] and it's great for bringing in Twitter likes of posts. [1] https://brid.gy/ [2] https://justinmiller.io/posts/2020/12/23/ornament/

I have a ~200 LOC Hugo partial I've built up which reads in the webmentions via jQuery, then parses them out into Twitter, Micro.blog, or "other". If at least one of either/or Twitter or Micro.blog, pull out the root URL and show that at the top of the comments to encourage discussion. Otherwise, parse out like, repost, or plain old mention and add an icon. I also have an HN parser for posts like this one[1] if they'…

was it easy to get it setup? I too have a Hugo blog but other than occasionally adding posts and changing the theme, haven't done any intense partial-building. Sounds like it could be a fun little project

Re: Webmention.io

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Post by throwanem »

SimeVidas wrote: post #36
Klonoar wrote: post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

Yes but it’s worth mentioning that jQuery Ajax is a high-level API while `fetch` is a low-level method. The default call is sometimes (most of the times?) not what you want, and you have to add one or more options.

It's not any more complicated to use than $.ajax ever was; the major difference is that it returns promises by default instead of needing callbacks, and that's a strict improvement.

That said, I'm glad you gave me a reason to look at the jQuery docs again, for the first time in years. What a 2009 mood!

edit: And if I'd looked more closely, I'd have seen that $.ajax now does return a promise. So that's good! Still appreciate the nostalgia hit.

Re: Webmention.io

#68

Post by koalala »

dbeley wrote: post #59

I'm too young to know what are webmentions or pingbacks (love the band Pinback though), you should briefly mention what they are on your homepage.

thanks, you just transported me back to my twenties :D

Re: Webmention.io

#69

Post by epc »

pjc50 wrote: post #34
blowski wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we let the possibility of spam prevent us building technology, we should never build anything.

No, if you build without spam prevention you end up with a situation where you have to retrofit it, annoying legitimate users and having a huge fight over control. Or it drowns in spam and everyone quietly drops it .. or it never takes off at all. Shrug

I have had trackbacks turned off on my MT blog for ~15 years and still get hundreds of attempted POSTs to mt-tb.cgi every week.

Re: Webmention.io

#70

Post by muppetman »

Why does this want permission to read my tweets? That wasn't clear at all putting my website and clicking the submit button. I'm sure it's fine, but I didn't grant it and backed out.
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