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LulzSec hacks NHS.

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Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#11
Anonymous is the best that could ever happen for proponents of a crackdown on freedom (through/via/on the internet).

No one knows who's behind it, so no one will stand up for them, no one will complain if they get harassed and all the blaim for everything that goes wrong in the future goes to Anon/hackers. It's the perfect scapegoat for incompetence.

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#12
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Anonymous literally could not have asked for a better representative on the information security front. Not only are they demonstrating that nobody's information is safe right now, they're doing it in a way that gets the message across without making everybody angry at them or any other geeks or netizens. Keep up the good work.

When you use "literally" like this, it's to indicate that what follows, whilst normally metaphorical, is in this case literal. How is "asking for a better representative on the information security front" a metaphor? The incessant misuse of the word literally, literally makes my blood boil. (See what I did there?)

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Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#13
The outlook for internet freedoms appears quite doomy over the next few years. Although in this case LulzSec doesn't appear to have done anything other than highlight security failings stories like this, along with the various doings of Anonymous and any other similar groups or individuals, can easily be exploited by politicians to advocate for a Chinese-style censorship regime and an end to net neutrality. Any hint that medical records might have been compromised would cause considerable public fear and alarm, which could then be channelled for political purposes.

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#14
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I completely believe that no patient records have been compromised - because the project to put them online is so late and over-budget (to the tune of GBP 20 billion ) that it's likely never to be completed. Let me put that number into perspective: We could buy a replacement fleet of Trident submarines from the NHS IT budget alone...

It’s wasted either way. £20bn would be much better sunk into renewables and energy independence.

Or perhaps not taken from the taxpayers in the first place?

[Edit: I am actually fairly left of center politically, but this does not mean that I am completely uncritical of what a government does with taxpayers money - and the last Labour government went insane with so many stupid projects and initiatives that we will have to live with for decades.]

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#15
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you use "literally" like this, it's to indicate that what follows, whilst normally metaphorical, is in this case literal. How is "asking for a better representative on the information security front" a metaphor? The incessant misuse of the word literally, literally makes my blood boil. (See what I did there?)

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Not "arguably", "actually". But he literally did that on purpose.

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

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post #4

I completely believe that no patient records have been compromised - because the project to put them online is so late and over-budget (to the tune of GBP 20 billion ) that it's likely never to be completed. Let me put that number into perspective: We could buy a replacement fleet of Trident submarines from the NHS IT budget alone...

I work at a company that implements medical IT solutions for hospitals and anything with the NHS takes 3-5 times longer than in the US and other parts of Europe.

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

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post #16
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I completely believe that no patient records have been compromised - because the project to put them online is so late and over-budget (to the tune of GBP 20 billion ) that it's likely never to be completed. Let me put that number into perspective: We could buy a replacement fleet of Trident submarines from the NHS IT budget alone...

I work at a company that implements medical IT solutions for hospitals and anything with the NHS takes 3-5 times longer than in the US and other parts of Europe.

How come? What's causing it?

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#18
post #8
post #2

Anonymous literally could not have asked for a better representative on the information security front. Not only are they demonstrating that nobody's information is safe right now, they're doing it in a way that gets the message across without making everybody angry at them or any other geeks or netizens. Keep up the good work.

When you use "literally" like this, it's to indicate that what follows, whilst normally metaphorical, is in this case literal. How is "asking for a better representative on the information security front" a metaphor? The incessant misuse of the word literally, literally makes my blood boil. (See what I did there?)

Once upon the time: http://literally.barelyfitz.com/

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#19

Anonymous is the best that could ever happen for proponents of a crackdown on freedom (through/via/on the internet). No one knows who's behind it, so no one will stand up for them, no one will complain if they get harassed and all the blaim for everything that goes wrong in the future goes to Anon/hackers. It's the perfect scapegoat for incompetence.

This isn't Anonymous.

Re: LulzSec hacks NHS.

#20

Somehow I've a feeling that we're going to soon lose a lot of freedoms that we've previously had online. This further supports the argument that the internet should be 'policed and legislated' - of course this means restricting information also ... Hackers are winning right now, but in the longer term Government and Big Business will crack the whip ...

Somehow I've a feeling that we're going to soon lose a lot of freedoms that we've previously had online.

You've already lost them :| apathy is a bigger enemy than anything. As long as people have access to their netflix or amazon or whatever, they'll be ok with internet crackdowns.

Big business and government have been winning for a long time and the hackers aren't really doing enough.

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