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Re: Webmention.io

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Post by zoover2020 »

aaronpk wrote: post #25
Klonoar wrote: post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

I'd happily accept a PR to the docs! I launched this service in... 2012

This is what I love about HN and puts a smile on my face every damn time.

For some reason, it makes the whole internet with its billions of users feel so small, for a sharp and brief moment.

Of course we live in our own bubble on HN, so it's quite a specific and targeted demographic already, but still.

Re: Webmention.io

#32

Post by Klonoar »

aaronpk wrote: post #25
Klonoar wrote: post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

I'd happily accept a PR to the docs! I launched this service in... 2012

Well, now I look like an ass. :)

I was assuming this was a new thing - my mistake! Makes much more sense now, haha.

Re: Webmention.io

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Post by Mizza »

blowski wrote: post #24
SquareWheel wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but I think it's also worth learning from past experiences. Pingbacks do create a significant spam problem. How does Webmention.io cope with that?

Cross that bridge when you get there. If nobody uses, there's no problem. If so many people are using it that it attracts spam, then the users can decide how to solve it at that point in time.

Of course, you are both correct here.

Spam was my first thought as well. Back in the golden age of blogging, I loved getting pingbacks on my posts, but the ecosystem became flooded with spam to the point that anybody old enough to remember what pingpacks are will automatically associate them with spam. It'd be nice if this service could address this concern, which lots of people will have immediately, and it appears they do via a plugin, as mentioned in another comment.

Since this is a centralized-ish service, it'd be good if they could perhaps address this at the hub-level.

Re: Webmention.io

#34

Post by pjc50 »

blowski wrote: post #18
vorpalhex wrote: post #12

So how long before this gets used for spam ala pingbacks?

If we let the possibility of spam prevent us building technology, we should never build anything.

No, if you build without spam prevention you end up with a situation where you have to retrofit it, annoying legitimate users and having a huge fight over control.

Or it drowns in spam and everyone quietly drops it .. or it never takes off at all. Shrug

Re: Webmention.io

#35

Post by blowski »

toyg wrote: post #11

Pingbacks are back, baby! What is old is new again, except this time is centralized, so hopefully with less spam but also less independence once FAANG acquire the service.

When did we all end up so pessimistic? An interesting new idea with little more than an MVP, and we've already mapped out its whole demise.

Re: Webmention.io

#36

Post by SimeVidas »

Klonoar wrote: post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

Yes but it’s worth mentioning that jQuery Ajax is a high-level API while `fetch` is a low-level method. The default call is sometimes (most of the times?) not what you want, and you have to add one or more options.

Re: Webmention.io

#37

Post by pcthrowaway »

So here's my question: HN as far as I can tell doesn't explicitly integrate with webmention, but I'm assuming webmention.io does use it. Does that mean the owner @aaronpk does get a mention every time webmention is linked, say, from Hacker News? The docs don't make it clear, but if in fact, it does, this seems like a killer concept for HN users who want to be notified (among other times) when their service/blog/whatever is shared to HN

edit: Also, why doesn't webmention.io display its own mentions to utilize the two-way communication it advertises? Seems like a no-brainer to show prospective users an example of it working in action

Re: Webmention.io

#38

Post by nfoz »

Not meant to flame: why do people want these? They always just seemed like spam cluttering up an article's comments, removing the space for actual discussion.

Re: Webmention.io

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Post by cube2222 »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #37

So here's my question: HN as far as I can tell doesn't explicitly integrate with webmention, but I'm assuming webmention.io does use it. Does that mean the owner @aaronpk does get a mention every time webmention is linked, say, from Hacker News? The docs don't make it clear, but if in fact, it does, this seems like a killer concept for HN users who want to be notified (among other times) when their service/blog/whate…

There are multiple services which solve this problem already, i.e. https://f5bot.com
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