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Re: Webmention.io

#21
post #18

So how long before this gets used for spam ala pingbacks?

If we let the possibility of spam prevent us building technology, we should never build anything.

I agree, but I think it's also worth learning from past experiences. Pingbacks do create a significant spam problem. How does Webmention.io cope with that?

Re: Webmention.io

#23
post #18

So how long before this gets used for spam ala pingbacks?

If we let the possibility of spam prevent us building technology, we should never build anything.

We should realize that any technology without controls will be taken advantage of. There's a reason we've moved away from insecure default logins, unauthenticated admin portals and allowing apps to do whatever they want - those things have all been abused.

Security must start in the design. Spam killed pingbacks, and unless Webmentions design with that flaw in mind they're doomed to the same end.

Re: Webmention.io

#24
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we let the possibility of spam prevent us building technology, we should never build anything.

I agree, but I think it's also worth learning from past experiences. Pingbacks do create a significant spam problem. How does Webmention.io cope with that?

Cross that bridge when you get there. If nobody uses, there's no problem. If so many people are using it that it attracts spam, then the users can decide how to solve it at that point in time.

Re: Webmention.io

#25
post #15

I don't have anything against jQuery, but isn't it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn't `fetch` just work fine there...?

I'd happily accept a PR to the docs! I launched this service in... 2012

Re: Webmention.io

#26
post #10

At first, I didn't get it. Pingbacks, isn't that from the 90s? Then, I thought: does this mean the bar for joining a conversation on my publication is that you have to publish something too? That seems like a nice bar to set for asking both parties in a conversation to be fully engaged. Trolls seem like they will be too lazy to do that.

Exactly. This kind of thing encourages substantive conversations.

Re: Webmention.io

#27
post #2

Oooh I like a lot. The whole idea of a two-way links like the wp pingbacks in the good old days is getting traction. For more info about this, see https://indieweb.org/Webmention and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkback Another useful related thing I saw is https://brid.gy/ which transforms social mentions into webmentions

Two-way links are why people use tools like Roam or Athens research.

I want to see the Web re-become the decentralized, hypertext knowledge graph it was meant to be.

Re: Webmention.io

#28

Excellent concept, project & service. I'm using it together with Brid.gy[1] on my Hugo-hosted blog[2] and it's great for bringing in Twitter likes of posts. [1] https://brid.gy/ [2] https://justinmiller.io/posts/2020/12/23/ornament/

Do you have a write-up on how you integrated this with Hugo and what the trade-offs were? I have an active side-project to add full IndieWeb support to my favorite Hugo theme, which includes WebMentions.

Re: Webmention.io

#29
post #10

At first, I didn't get it. Pingbacks, isn't that from the 90s? Then, I thought: does this mean the bar for joining a conversation on my publication is that you have to publish something too? That seems like a nice bar to set for asking both parties in a conversation to be fully engaged. Trolls seem like they will be too lazy to do that.

Implies an interesting lower bound to on-boarding friction, especially for anonymous services. Counter-intuitive, but clearly a thing.

Re: Webmention.io

#30

Excellent concept, project & service. I'm using it together with Brid.gy[1] on my Hugo-hosted blog[2] and it's great for bringing in Twitter likes of posts. [1] https://brid.gy/ [2] https://justinmiller.io/posts/2020/12/23/ornament/

Can you explain how this works? The blog post is pulling in the webmentions via JavaScript?
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