Ha ha this reminds me of the first website I made. It was a site about Green Day. Of course, I built it on angelfire and it was chock full of gifs and midi music playing in the background. A lot of nostalgia seeing this.
Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
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Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#62"In conclusion, people are finally beginning to understand the hard way: Web Browsers really make poor client application runtimes for all but the most basic of things. ActiveX is a security nightmare and counter to making cross-platform applications. The web is a constantly changing and evolving standard separate from Microsoft or any specific operating system, as such implementing an application for just one specif…
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#63(I can't help but feel interfaces were more usable those days, being a millennial)
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s worth remembering that Flash was in fact extremely successful. I think we’d still be using it today if not for some combination of (1) Steve Jobs and (2) Adobe mismanagement. People say Flash was bloated but try running Slack on 2008-era hardware and let me know how it goes. And there’s no reason Flash couldn’t have been adapted to use responsive breakpoints and such for mobile friendliness.
Slack and other ill-optimized Electron apps are not great, but Flash was far worse, at least in my experience. With Flash a single banner ad in some tab you forgot you had open could consume half or more of your G4/G5/C2D, whipping your fans into a frenzy and roasting your lap (if using a laptop). Slack, etc are a detriment in terms of heat and battery life too, but not to such an extreme extent and at least you're g…
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#65"In conclusion, people are finally beginning to understand the hard way: Web Browsers really make poor client application runtimes for all but the most basic of things. ActiveX is a security nightmare and counter to making cross-platform applications. The web is a constantly changing and evolving standard separate from Microsoft or any specific operating system, as such implementing an application for just one specif…
To this day I detest sites that require javascript, inject tens or hundreds of MB into cache, and make ridiculous demands of rendering.
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#66"In conclusion, people are finally beginning to understand the hard way: Web Browsers really make poor client application runtimes for all but the most basic of things. ActiveX is a security nightmare and counter to making cross-platform applications. The web is a constantly changing and evolving standard separate from Microsoft or any specific operating system, as such implementing an application for just one specif…
I work in defense and our stuff only runs with Internet explorer and Java applets. Requirements were written in the early 2000s and the product is still not ready to ship.
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fairness, "DHTML" / programmatic manipulation of the DOM was just invented in 1996 and eventually ended up being the envisioned successful client application runtime implemented across browser versions and runtimes. Now, of course with the Chromium hegemony we have an old-is-new-again set of problems on the web, but I do think that for a time, people _did_ listen to this advice and stopped writing applications for…
It’s worth remembering that Flash was in fact extremely successful. I think we’d still be using it today if not for some combination of (1) Steve Jobs and (2) Adobe mismanagement. People say Flash was bloated but try running Slack on 2008-era hardware and let me know how it goes. And there’s no reason Flash couldn’t have been adapted to use responsive breakpoints and such for mobile friendliness.
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's interesting to me you're getting downvoted which signifies that people don't think you're adding to the conversation Is this a form of denialism by hardcore "I-Hate-Javascript"ers? I would like to add that I absolutely hate the subset of modern websites that choose to be slow, but I think the parent is completely right. If we keep making it hard to use useful applications across platforms, then we're going to co…
>which signifies that people don't think you're adding to the conversation // Point of fact: pg, the founder of HN endorsed downvoting for disagreement much to my chagrin.
Re: Internet Explorer is evil (1996)
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
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