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DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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Another report based on BBC news stories we have all read. It's all one giant Wikipedia circular proof. There is clear documentation of people used in this report changing their story multiple times over the years. Which since none of the stories are corroborated, is an issue. But this report doesn't even look at the way the news stories are changing over time. It's to lazy to even do that. China is not North Korea.…

Could you provide links of the stories being changed?

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

#12

Another report based on BBC news stories we have all read. It's all one giant Wikipedia circular proof. There is clear documentation of people used in this report changing their story multiple times over the years. Which since none of the stories are corroborated, is an issue. But this report doesn't even look at the way the news stories are changing over time. It's to lazy to even do that. China is not North Korea.…

Could you provide links of the stories being changed?

There are a few examples with primary sources outlined here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210223203303/https://moonofala...

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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post #3

I have some clear evidence that "Saddam is developing WMDs" to sell you.

The skepticism I see about this story is really disturbing. From the evidence I have read I am almost certain that there is a genocide happening. But even if I was only 10% sure it was happening I would demand investigations and proof it wasn’t because the consequences of it being true is so horrible.

I also feel positive that it’s being picked up and spun for political reasons. Just like it was previously ignored for political reasons. That’s a reason to be skeptical of the actions we’re being told to take, not of the fact that it’s happening.

The important thing is we demand that our leaders (gov and corporate) step up and apply pressure. China has to prove there is not a genocide happening - or we need to take action to stop it.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you provide links of the stories being changed?

There are a few examples with primary sources outlined here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210223203303/https://moonofala...

This does not appear to be a reputable source.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a few examples with primary sources outlined here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210223203303/https://moonofala...

This does not appear to be a reputable source.

They don’t have to be.

Look at the primary sources which they cite.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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I have some clear evidence that "Saddam is developing WMDs" to sell you.

The skepticism I see about this story is really disturbing. From the evidence I have read I am almost certain that there is a genocide happening. But even if I was only 10% sure it was happening I would demand investigations and proof it wasn’t because the consequences of it being true is so horrible. I also feel positive that it’s being picked up and spun for political reasons. Just like it was previously ignored fo…

What kind of pressure? It seems that China has the upper hand in terms of economic leverage.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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post #3

I have some clear evidence that "Saddam is developing WMDs" to sell you.

The skepticism I see about this story is really disturbing. From the evidence I have read I am almost certain that there is a genocide happening. But even if I was only 10% sure it was happening I would demand investigations and proof it wasn’t because the consequences of it being true is so horrible. I also feel positive that it’s being picked up and spun for political reasons. Just like it was previously ignored fo…

>China has to prove there is not a genocide happening

How does one prove a negative though?

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

#18

How can any consumer boycott China? Mailing my representatives gets a cherry letter telling me they're very concerned and working on this matter! Then I watch cspan and not a word gets said that could ruffle a single of xis hairs. Perhaps direct action is needed? A Boston tea party except China cargo celebration perhaps?

A boycott of china is very hard to do at an individual level.

My best solution so far has been to buy used products whenever i can’t find a version that was made outside of china. But this clearly doesn’t solve the issue, since the used market would be quickly emptied if only a few more people did the same.

The fact that we are so dependent on chinese manufacturing is a problem on it’s own.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The skepticism I see about this story is really disturbing. From the evidence I have read I am almost certain that there is a genocide happening. But even if I was only 10% sure it was happening I would demand investigations and proof it wasn’t because the consequences of it being true is so horrible. I also feel positive that it’s being picked up and spun for political reasons. Just like it was previously ignored fo…

>China has to prove there is not a genocide happening How does one prove a negative though?

If this was math you’d be right, but it wouldn’t take a lot to allow outside observers enough access to the communities in question to confirm or deny the story.

Re: DC Report — “Clear evidence” China is committing genocide against Uyghurs

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The skepticism I see about this story is really disturbing. From the evidence I have read I am almost certain that there is a genocide happening. But even if I was only 10% sure it was happening I would demand investigations and proof it wasn’t because the consequences of it being true is so horrible. I also feel positive that it’s being picked up and spun for political reasons. Just like it was previously ignored fo…

What kind of pressure? It seems that China has the upper hand in terms of economic leverage.

I mean I would start with divesting from chinese manufacturing en masse. Move those iPhone factories elsewhere.
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