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5k Year Old Bog Oak Table: Digging up 4k-year-old trees for furniture

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That table is stunning, fascinating article. I wonder what the supply of these logs is like and whether we will see "Real Fake Bog Log Bedframe" coming out of the black market shops of Asia any time soon.

Probably already exists on Amazon

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In New Zealand, there are old swamplands filled with swamp Kauri. Around a year ago, construction workers found a 16 m (52 ft) long log which had been buried underground for 40,000 years [1] They used to dig up $200 million worth of timber a year, mostly exported to China, until the government cracked down on exports. It's illegal to export unfinished native timber, so exporters exploited a loophole by cutting the tr…

The limits of regulation. There is no way to plug all loopholes. That said, the added labor ensures a more finished product is exported. Was that the intent, or was the intent to force the wood to stay in NZ?

>The limits of regulation. There is no way to plug all loopholes.

Sure there is. Just ban export of wood and wooden items.

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That table is stunning, fascinating article. I wonder what the supply of these logs is like and whether we will see "Real Fake Bog Log Bedframe" coming out of the black market shops of Asia any time soon.

Old growth wood is physically different from what you'll find at a regular lumberyard, so I would like to think no, but I'm sure it will be turned into marketing speak eventually.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The limits of regulation. There is no way to plug all loopholes. That said, the added labor ensures a more finished product is exported. Was that the intent, or was the intent to force the wood to stay in NZ?

>The limits of regulation. There is no way to plug all loopholes. Sure there is. Just ban export of wood and wooden items.

Then you find wood called "cellulose products" and the cycle starts again. It's impossible to limit creativity, and also why would a government want to pursue a ban as it impacts negatively woodworkers?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The limits of regulation. There is no way to plug all loopholes. That said, the added labor ensures a more finished product is exported. Was that the intent, or was the intent to force the wood to stay in NZ?

Certainly the former, but clearly not in the spirit of it. However as long as the tax man got his share maybe that’s all that matters. Presumably the more finished product is taxed higher.

Both the letter of the law and the spirit seem to point to just using the regulation around finished furniture as a way to limit over harvesting. Why do you see it differently?

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Anyone with any knowledge know if bog wood like this oak has been used as a tone wood? Really interesting read I didn't expect to see this morning.

I've used bog oak for a bunch of things, it behaves about the same as white oak to me - so I doubt it would be great for tone wood uses.

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I had never heard of bog oak before, but this material is absolutely stunning. I really wish there was more appreciation of proper heirloom-quality furniture and things in general. I think it's part of making living more ecological, and it's a form of generational wealth. Unfortunately we live in an era of cheapest possible items, and disposal of things when they go out of style. Something like this never goes out of style.

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I had never heard of bog oak before, but this material is absolutely stunning. I really wish there was more appreciation of proper heirloom-quality furniture and things in general. I think it's part of making living more ecological, and it's a form of generational wealth. Unfortunately we live in an era of cheapest possible items, and disposal of things when they go out of style. Something like this never goes out of…

Ikea has made millennials think furniture is disposable.
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