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Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

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Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#101

What is up with the comments in this thread? Feels like tons of them are bot written. Weird attacks on Bill Gates and Microsoft all over the place.

Why is it weird to be critical of MS or Gates? They've definitely earned the suspicion with their own actions.

Gates has nothing to do with Bitcoin, his opinion here is worthless.

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#103

There are so many better crypto-currencies. Better for the environment because they use proof-of-stake, and not proof-of-work. Better for users because transactions are confirmed in seconds, not hours, and without the ridiculous fees that Bitcoin has. I think this shows how truly powerful the network effect, and being first to market is. Because without those things, Bitcoin would be nothing.

With bitcoin, you are paying for security. I know if I send you a bitcoin transaction there is a high probability it won't be reverted in our lifetime, possibly ever. I'm not a maxi but these new projects don't have that guarantee yet; likely they never will.

Proof of stake crypto currencies are just as secure.

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#104

Steve Balmer and Bill also used to call Linux a cancer but look now: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-07/hackers-b... their OS filled with malicious stuff and who knows what kind of backdoors is when exploited by hackers, they blame it on China rather than taking responsibility of putting users at risk with vulnerable OS

these people had fiduciary duties to make money for their investors. they've only lived in that world their entire life. It doesn't matter what they say about things. Read, learn and make your own conclusions if you will.

and as Linus Torvalds simply put it decades ago: that these people are out there to make money and not make world a better place even if they pretend .

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#105
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do think Ethereum will overtake Bitcoin eventually in usage. In some ways it already has. Ethereum's transaction fees are set to drop like a rock over the next few years, and so many useful things are built on it already.

Doesn't Ethereum have the same environmental issues?

Ethereum is already transitioning to proof-of-stake which has a number of benefits including much lower power usage. I'm so tired of people equating bitcoin with all cryptocurrencies.

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#106
post #65

Billionaire says XYZ bad for environment. I cannot help thinking: what a hypocrite. Poor people are much better for the environment than rich. Not even considering private-jet flying super rich. I think BG has no business telling others what's good/bad for the planet.

poop people

:)

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#108

There are so many better crypto-currencies. Better for the environment because they use proof-of-stake, and not proof-of-work. Better for users because transactions are confirmed in seconds, not hours, and without the ridiculous fees that Bitcoin has. I think this shows how truly powerful the network effect, and being first to market is. Because without those things, Bitcoin would be nothing.

With bitcoin, you are paying for security. I know if I send you a bitcoin transaction there is a high probability it won't be reverted in our lifetime, possibly ever. I'm not a maxi but these new projects don't have that guarantee yet; likely they never will.

The only reason proof of work is working for Bitcoin is because of the amount of hashing power put into it.

Nearly every other bitcoin fork can suffer a 50% attack because the network is sufficiently small that one can rent enough hashing power to attack it (see Bitcoin Gold).

Alternate coins absolutely need some other mechanism to secure their chain that doesn't require a critical mass.

Re: Bill Gates Says that Bitcoin is bad For the Planet

#109
post #41

Why is 'rich billionaire has uninformed or possibly self interested opinions' newsworthy

Because this rich tech billionaire brought about humanity-changing innovations so maybe what he says deserves some attention? Why does _your_ opinion matter?

His status as rich tech billionaire doesn't make a difference unless he is making arguments that are new or interesting. And he isn't. We've all been hearing the environment argument for years now.

Plus, there is obviously an argument to be made that he has had a negative overall influence on the world & therefore shouldn't be trusted.

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