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Apple TV+ announces programming partnership with Nobel laureate Malala Yousafzai

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

For All Mankind is actually pretty good but it is the only thing I'm interested in on the platform.

My daughter loves Ghost Writer. Our cat really likes to watch Tiny World.

And yes, FAM is up there with HBO's From the Earth to the Moon.

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

I disagree strongly that their software is terrible. My iPhone is bombproof, and I strongly believe that part of their success has been in making these phones easy to use, every time. My parents and people like them don't have time for bugs or quirks - they will take reliability and ease of use over hackability and the latest features every single time.

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Is there some reason to think her content really fits ... TV? Kinda wondering how this actually works.

For a subscription streaming service you need prestige shows to get people to subscribe, the type of content people think they want to watch, then once they are subscribed you need a portfolio of junk food TV which is what they actually will watch to keep them hooked.

Junk entertainment (social media, programmed streaming, etc) is going to be the bane of humanity.

Junk food + Junk entertainment doesn’t add up to a productive society.

It seems like advanced economies, on average, are suffering from obesity as well as decline in brainpower.

Even China can’t avoid this and I don’t see them clamping down on things that keep their population “busy”.

Bifurcation in education and intellect will just add to the economic divide.

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

Apple TV+ is not the best streaming service, but it does have a decent value proposition, especially as part of a bundle of Apple services.

It has enough quality shows and movies to warrant a couple of months of subscription. I think it will slowly become successful despite the nay-saying, just like a lot of things Apple makes.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question. Just got an offer to sign up for a free year, after buying and activating a new iPhone. Unlikely to take them up on it, since it won't work with my existing Chromecast attached to my not-so-smart TV. I'm not interested in buying another device just to be able to stream Apple TV+. Likely many people are in a similar situation.

I got the free year and then got hooked on Ted Lasso and For All Mankind, both of which would fit into the upper tier of Netflix’s programming. Some of their nature shows are also great. TV plus, News, Fitness, and Arcade ended up being an extra $7 CAD when part of the Apple One bundle on top of what I was already paying for iCloud storage and Apple Music on the family plans. The bundle strategy is an old one, and it…

That would be a new device to buy, since I'm using the original Chromecast. But I see your point about the upside of this bundling strategy, it just wasn't enough to win me over.

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

What constitutes a “failure”? Netflix is as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle, Hulu can’t make a UI to save their lives and may as well be a reality TV/game show app with how little the big three networks put out anymore, and Disney+ lacks adult programming outside of Marvel (and that’s being generous). Apple TV+ is what you go to see at your local art house theatre. It’s different, it’s original, and it has amazing production values—-all at a decent price. Just because it’s not your cup of tea doesn’t make it a “failure on so many levels”.

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On a tangential note, wonder how much emphasis Apple will put on the TV+. I doubt it’s popular and whether people actually want to sign up for it. Are there numbers out there for the subscribers for it? How many are paying customers and choose to stay on after the free period is over?

They started in a strange position -- no back catalog. So they'll have to build that out over time. I'd expect it becomes a better proposition eventually. That being said, Ted Lasso, Mythic Quest, Home, For All Mankind, Greyhound, WolfWalkers, and The Elephant Queen have all been some of the best shows I've watched in the last 18 months. They certainly don't have quantity, but I've been pretty happy with the quality.

Greyhound was such a disappointment for me (a huge Das Boot fan, submarine sim player). The subs in the movie acted like a bunch of horny teenagers in a girls' dormitory, surfacing at the stupidest moments, firing at everything that moves, taking a fucking destroyer head-on for some reason. Stopped taking the movie seriously halfway through, skipped through the second half for some cool shots that didn't look violently CGI. If it wasn't for Tom Hanks, it would've been a 35 % movie.

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

You haven’t really given AppleTV+ a fair shake. There are some great shows and movies on the service. Ted Lasso, Dickenson, Wolfwalkers, etc. It’s on the low price side of streaming services and a free year is included with many product purchases. I wouldn’t call that a failure by a long-shot.

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Apple is probably the worst FAANG for good content production. They seem only to invest in very well known artists which in turn produce entirely milquetoast content (Greyhound, For All Mankind, etc.). Good art pushes boundaries; crappy art is derivative.

What content in this category does Google or Facebook produce?

I saw an ad for a facebook tv show on the subway once and was surprised because i've never heard anyone talk about them anywhere. Looks like "Facebook Watch" came out in 2017.

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AppleTV+ is such a failure on so many levels. Firstly, everyone thinks AppleTV is an Apple-branded TV. I have had to explain to people how it’s an Apple Roku. Then adding the + to designate their content offering instead of an enhanced AppleTV was equally terrible. I have no idea how they came to such a terrible decision. Thirdly, the content is beyond terrible. I don’t know what they were thinking, but they spent so…

To answer some of the comments:

The show with Jason Mamoa was unwatchable, pun intended.

I also watched all the kids content which was either boring or bad. I had high hopes for the Charlie Brown content but my kid who loves space was pretty bored by their show on Snoopy going into Space.

Netflix has can’t-miss comedians like Dave Chappelle and all their specials. They have excellent kids shows like Dragon Prince and a ton of Captain Underpants offerings. HBO Max had new movies coming direct to streaming. Amazon Prime has a bunch of movies for free and it has The Boys. I think their kids shows are decent. Disney+ had all the MCU content including the new shows.

AppleTV+ had none of the above. They may have one-off shows that aren’t horrible but it’s not enough to sustain a subscription. I haven’t heard any buzz about them from my social network because absolutely no one uses AppleTV+. I’m the only one I know that even gave some of the content a shot. I would say that’s a complete failure for a trillion dollar company.

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