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Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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If I have $10 from 10 years ago, they're worth less today. The government's incompetence and engagement in usury has caused my money to lose value.

They are pretty competent at getting inflation to the intended target. Maybe you're missing something?

There shouldn't be a target. I don't want my money to be inflated artificially by the government.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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Sure, almost all central banks over the world have printed an astronomical amount of money. Even though they may state there is no significant inflation, I dont buy it and neither do many other economists. Stock prices, house prices and now, at last, commodity prices have gone through the roof... But you're probably earning about as much as you were a year ago, or less, if your industry was affected... It's not just…

Interest rates are at zero. When official inflation starts ticking up they'll raise interest rates which will deflate the stock & house price bubble and cut inflation off at the knees. We have lots of things to worry about -- inflation isn't one of them.

Popping the bubble will be worse than the inflation.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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CPI is a joke, they do something called hedonic adjustments to things like tech products etc. It's completely subjective and BS. Technology is deflationary, things should get cheaper because we go after producing them in creative ways one demand is high. CPI is absurd, it only perpetuates consumerism and punishes savers. We product 2x the food society consumes - mostly wasted away, just with some supply chain efficie…

Real question that nobody has yet answered: With what data CPI is even calculated? The data sources are all hidden.

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26259279

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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It was prohibited in early Christianity before the Church gave in and allowed it.

I'd like to hear your source for this.

There's information on Wikipedia, even though Wikipedia is generally not a good source on nuanced religious topics. I found many incorrect things mentioned about Islam for example (I'm Muslim).

> At times, many nations from ancient Greece to ancient Rome have outlawed loans with any interest. Though the Roman Empire eventually allowed loans with carefully restricted interest rates, the Catholic Church in medieval Europe, as well as the Reformed Churches, regarded the charging of interest at any rate as sinful (as well as charging a fee for the use of money, such as at a bureau de change). [1]

So we see how the Church changed its opinion over time. They weaseled their way out of the prohibition, and today they don't say anything. Separation of Church and State also made it easier to engage in these sorts of practices.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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CPI is a joke, they do something called hedonic adjustments to things like tech products etc. It's completely subjective and BS. Technology is deflationary, things should get cheaper because we go after producing them in creative ways one demand is high. CPI is absurd, it only perpetuates consumerism and punishes savers. We product 2x the food society consumes - mostly wasted away, just with some supply chain efficie…

Real question that nobody has yet answered: With what data CPI is even calculated? The data sources are all hidden. Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26259279

Keynesian economics kool-aid, all the Phd Econ guys worship guy who had done some really shady stuff in his life. Nobel prize in economics was started by Sveriges riksbank in 1968, just to perpetuate same ideaologies. Shady af.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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post #236

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They are pretty competent at getting inflation to the intended target. Maybe you're missing something?

There shouldn't be a target. I don't want my money to be inflated artificially by the government.

Okay, then say you disagree with the target, but don't say they are incompetent.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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post #232

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Here in Australia, some food prizes are up because the farming industry relies on cheap backpacker labor. Borders are shut so no backpackers come in, so a lot of fruit died on the field. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/02/world/australia/agricultu... It should be noted that the entire industry is notorious for doing every dodgy thing they can get away with, wage theft, rent theft, extreme conditions, so local workers…

That's amazing. Australia's farm labor is primarily relatively-wealthy vacationers who need a boost while they are far from home?

Working Holiday visa. If you're under 30 it's a rubber stamp thing.

Pay the 400 bucks and you're good for a year.

You can work legally as long as it's no more than 6 months anywhere, and it's pretty easy to get around that.

You can extend your visa for another year if you do 88 days (~3 months) of "farm work" -- doesn't have to be on a farm per se, I know a guy who worked in a hyper-remote rural gas station ("road house").

I worked on a very remote cattle farm digging watering trenches and welding cattle pens. Then hitchhiked across the country.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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post #118

Rising food costs. Rising housing costs. Rising unemployment and stagnating wages. Another crash coming in the next couple of years?

Housing has been rising for a long time. Wages have been stagnant for a long time as well. I'm fairly certain food prices won't be the cause here.

We printed our way out of a pandemic recession, so who knows what other nuclear options will be used to avoid near-term recessions.

Re: Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes

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Real question that nobody has yet answered: With what data CPI is even calculated? The data sources are all hidden. Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26259279

Keynesian economics kool-aid, all the Phd Econ guys worship guy who had done some really shady stuff in his life. Nobel prize in economics was started by Sveriges riksbank in 1968, just to perpetuate same ideaologies. Shady af.

Keynes was also a child sex tourist who frequently preyed on boys, sometimes with friends https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2802/was-john-m...

Edit: not sure why I’m being downvoted. He admitted in his diaries as a 30 year old man he would pay for sex from 16 year olds, and referenced others as “boys” without ages. By modern standards he would be a sex offender for life. We seem to hold all historical figures by modern standards now, not sure why we give this pedophile a pass.

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