Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

bloodknife.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

221–230 of 699 posts

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#221

Post by dominotw »

fractionalhare wrote: post #92
miserablegit wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The public had infinite access to the sexual equivalent of gourmet food If you think porn is "gourmet", you've not watched enough of it. Porn is the McDonalds of sex: repetitive, predictable, largely "safe" (with minimal care, you won't see what you don't want to see), and purposedly all-encompassing but still largely detached from the real thing. I'm an unabashed porn consumer and I have to tell you, I yearn for a…

I bet there's a cottage industry of porn that specializes in serving you that kind of experience. Even if it's just packaged from existing movies and more "softcore" or something. Porn isn't gourmet or not gourmet, it can be whatever you want it to be. And if there's enough demand (and it's legal), people will make specialized porn to serve it.

>I bet there's a cottage industry of porn that specializes in serving you that kind of experience.

GP wants sex scenes that happen in a movie not movie that happens for sex scenes.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#222

Post by notsureaboutpg »

spcebar wrote: post #127
hirundo wrote: post #35

Is this a side effect of normalizing porn, that sexuality is more effectively partitioned? I once had a debate in an online forum about legalizing prostitution, and most participants were supportive of it. Then I asked the same group, what about legalizing partial prostitution, like a receptionist that also has sex with the boss as part of the job description. The participants all immediately switched to revulsion at…

In my eyes, the issue is that it the becomes the norm that receptionists need to have sex with their bosses and people who are only interested in the receptionist part are put in the position of needing to go into sex work or someone else getting the job they want.

So what though?

Isn't this true of people who are not interested in prostitution/pornography needing to go into prostitution/pornography or getting paid less to take a job that isn't involved with that?

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#223

Post by astrange »

noofen wrote: post #157
theonemind wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are almost 7.7 billion people on the planet already, even with less than replacement birthrates, I think we're good on human count for the next 300 years or so at a minimum so unless the birth rate really catastrophically collapses. We could lose an order of magnitude of people without endangering genetic diversity, take significant load off of the environment, and frankly, quite probably improve the human cond…

There are going to be real, significant consequences from us as a Western society collectively deciding to commit civilizational suicide. Every day I see attractive, intelligent, productive, highly empathetic couples justifying their decision to not have children because of abstract "environmental concerns" amongst other decadent reasons (all highly abstract and indicative of civilization in decline, "first world lux…

> I know the utopian liberal vision is "we're all created equal," but it simply is not true with the scientific consensus being that IQ is 50-70% heritable [3].

"heritable" does not mean "genetic", please stop reading fake science and slatestarcodex comments. Children exist in the same environment and have the same nutrition as their parents.

Besides that, most published scientific results are false, so why are you believing anything about IQ when you haven't personally sat the people you're claiming are inferior down and had them take a test?

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#224

Post by DoreenMichele »

jack_pp wrote: post #215
DoreenMichele wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My very first words in my first comment were: I'm not suggesting you are doing anything morally wrong I'm not making any of the assumptions you accuse me of. I'm just trying to say that the world of work and opportunities available to women are different than for men, so their logic for why they make certain choices may not be what a man would expect based on how he thinks about his choices in relation to how to earn…

I won't comment on the personal stuff because I've stopped trying to save everyone. For the record I rolled on random.org with a 20% chance saying I should offer to personally help you and you got 57. > When push comes to shove, women are expected to use their sexuality to some degree to open doors career-wise in a way men are generally not expected to do Men are generally not epected to use their sexuality because i…

If it worked I'm sure some % of men would use it. Proof : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26165800

I absolutely agree that if they could, there are men who would.

I don't agree that women are not expected to use their sexuality. I'm not interested in debating it.

I've stated my opinion. Some folks here will recognize my handle and have some idea of who I am and yadda and others won't. It is inevitable that different people will perceive my opinions differently depending on how much and what they know about me (and no doubt other factors as well).

You have a good day.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#225

Post by [deleted] »

oliv__ wrote: post #205
anonll394e92 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I use escorts, it is not easy finding an independent, good looking, permissive, not-very-expensive girl but by my calculations that's a far more efficient way of satisfying my inner-chimp until I want to get married and have kids. I do not want to participate in some mating ritual that involves two persons lying to each other in order to just relieve some sexual tension. In Romania I do not feel that gener…

Not trying to insult but genuinely curious: how do you derive any kind of satisfaction (mental I guess) from this interaction? Don't you feel disgusted with yourself once it's over with? Why is just jacking off not a better option than this?

[deleted]

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#226

Post by notsureaboutpg »

Clewza313 wrote: post #165
lobstrosity420 wrote: post #18

I think the lack of sex in Hollywood can be traced at least in part to the Chinese market. There's a lot of money in it and studios are more than happy to comply with CCP guidelines to get a share of that pie.

And sadly the next/upcoming big market, India, isn't any better than China when it comes to censorship.

I'm actually okay with this. I only watch movies with my family and I'm sick of having to pass up on actually interesting movies because they're excessively vulgar.

If there was a service I could pay to censor movies for me, I would.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#227

Post by astrange »

dysrend wrote: post #183
tayo42 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of me wants to put the blame on the female side for the reduction of sex. Mostly because girls will be slut shamed for doing anything sexual. So girls hold it back. You can't blame them for being conservative in the society we live in. Stop telling the female half of the population that they need to be innocent virgins,sex is normal. The other excuses don't really resonate with me. Roommates? We were having plen…

Nothing makes sense. Nobody knows what to do or how to work this shit. Moving targets. Last time I had a girlfriend I'd come off a 2 year spree of virtual homelessness and poverty. I was living with my parents (mom and dad, both separated) transiently. I was dirt poor, drugs problem, losing jobs etc... She was in college studying to become a nurse. It wasn't one of those asymmetrical relationships either. She wasn't…

> And then what are you to take from all the man-bashing shit? All the vitriolic speech against white males? And so on and so forth.

If you were an alpha male you'd never be paying attention to this in the first place. This is only a concern if you're reading memes spread by neurotic people on the internet.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#228

Post by magicalhippo »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #48

Maybe it’s just me, but I roll my eyes at anything sexual in TV and movies. They’re usually completely unnecessary to the storyline, and almost feels like a quota (sex scene, check). Even The Simpsons throws in unnecessary sexual plots, and every time I see them, I can’t understand why they added it in.

Yeah been feeling the same lately. That "obligatory" topless shower scene, man, just drop it. If I want to see tits I know where to go.

Showing a couple bonding is fine, but it adds nothing knowing they did it doggy style.

Nudity is fine if it adds something. But too much feels like a checkbox being ticked off.

Most recently I recall being really pleased watching Greenland that they didn't have one of those typical scenes. I was so expecting it, and it was so refreshing that it wasn't included.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#229

Post by astrange »

pretendscholar wrote: post #187

No discussion of endocrine disruption? Endrocrine distruption could explain a loss in libido. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2021/02/27/falling-sperm...

So give people zinc and maca supplements.

Isn't it a lot more likely to be increased access to birth control? Which people take for very good reasons, but it disrupts your hormones a lot more than plastic does. That's the point of taking it.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#230

Post by redisman »

brushfoot wrote: post #16

There are interesting ideas here. Personally, I find the War on Terror explanation a little far fetched. I think a more likely possibility is that movies started specializing. In the decades before the Internet, cinema was one place where the average person who didn't buy dirty magazines could glimpse more skin than in everyday life. Then the Internet came along. Suddenly pornography was in everyone's home. Soon it w…

Even simpler. Disney (et al) produces the majority (?) of movie hours the public watches in 2021. That combined with globalization of demand - you don’t want to cut off any geographical regions that can’t handle anything controversial and you have boring, technically immaculate, corporate movies.
Post reply on HN