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Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

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Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

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I dunno, everything being PG-13 feels like the opposite of specializing. They're trying to get everyone into the theater.

...including the puritans, which means violence is okay but sex is a dealbreaker.

which is true and such deeply weird thing. and ties into the idea (though i think it's not super well supported in the article) that some of this comes from basically anxiety over physical threats.

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#23

> This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones;…

Become financially independent is probably the best you can do. That'll cover not affording to go out and having to live with parents or roommates.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

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There are interesting ideas here. Personally, I find the War on Terror explanation a little far fetched. I think a more likely possibility is that movies started specializing. In the decades before the Internet, cinema was one place where the average person who didn't buy dirty magazines could glimpse more skin than in everyday life. Then the Internet came along. Suddenly pornography was in everyone's home. Soon it w…

I dunno, everything being PG-13 feels like the opposite of specializing. They're trying to get everyone into the theater.

That's precisely what I mean. It's specialization in mass market genre entertainment.

Action films are more purely about action; fantasy films are more purely about fantasy. There's no need to mix in sexual titillation anymore.

Separation of concerns.

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It's interesting, but pretty easily explained, right? Disney. What if you excise their canon from all the points made? I don't know the answer to that, honestly I don't watch movies. I'd be willing to bet their demographic capture strategy weighed children more highly than adults. That's easy memorabilia sales, tickets, dvd's, subscriptions, indoctrination, which will later yield nostalgia. And if you remove child-oriented or family films, the latter of which may even contain sexually suggestive content, from my recent movie/tv experiences there's still a lot of sex. I suppose if you weigh popularity there's an argument to be made. But does sex sell movies when you can watch an infinity of hardcore pornography with not only full blown nudity, but any variety of fantasy?

The really strange part, which seemed to me to be largely overlooked, is the ratio of violence to sex. The US in particular seems possessed by an interesting duality. One being that depictions of extreme violence are fine, but full frontal nudity is somehow verboten. And then another interesting point, the magnitude of which I'm not wholly aware of, is that we're almost certainly the porn capitol. Not in production alone, but in consumption as well, but I'm speculating on the basis of anecdotes.

What does it mean?

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, everything being PG-13 feels like the opposite of specializing. They're trying to get everyone into the theater.

...including the puritans, which means violence is okay but sex is a dealbreaker.

Its a sign of how messed our society is that we can depict torture but not a naked person.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#27
This was a fun read, especially as someone who grew up with those 80s and 90s movies.

That said, and as the author touches on, the action/super hero of today is a PG-13 one. Studios need to reach the widest audience possible to make the most money, so it's a safer bet.

Sure, back in the day studios had the same imperative, but the licensed toy game was still young, so they didn't realise that maybe if they made Die Hard PG instead of R they could sell some John McClane action figures to younger viewiers.

Nowadays, that's basically the starting point; what we can we sell outside of the movie? how can we milk the franchise for as much as possible?

And that's where a lot of the sex appeal is lost. Marvel movies can't be as raunchy as a result.

Another topic that the author touched on was the way the ideal aesthetic has changed in not just our bodies but where we live or what we do in our spare time.

I agree that more and more we are optimising for artifice; fitness classes, extra curricular activities, holidays, concerts and events we attend, just to keep up an appearance online or in person. And in those activities we often don't get the true value out of them because we're doing them for the wrong reason.

Anyway, it's a complex and interesting topic and I'd love to read more about this perhaps from even further back (50s or 60s) if anyone has something similar to this post?

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#28

Cute article, but may I.offer a simple alternative? Movie makers want to appeal to viewership in homes where there are children, and younger audiences in general. You can't show much nudity or direct sexual themes to minors. That of course doesn't explain why the house in Poltergeist was more normal looking, but that point isn't really bolstered by too much else.

And honestly, the sex scenes in (some) movies just felt contrived or forced.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#29

> This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones;…

Live your life and turn off the bullshit. Otherwise, wait for it to burn out. Social media is a bubble, and the milk that helps create the metoo froth.

We’ll sacrifice bad guys to the volcano gods for awhile, then the bubble will pop, the trend will fade and women (in the media) will be thirsting for men who aren’t wusses.

Re: Modern action films fetishize the body even as they desexualize it

#30
>Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them.

The violence like street fights is also down. The way of progress. Civilization naturally tames the primary instincts by directly dampening them (observed decrease of testosterone) while simultaneously providing ample channels for redirection and sublimation.

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