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Post by rtpg »

JProthero wrote: post #185
vl wrote: post #153

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CGP Grey is strange, so to say. He effectively abandoned Hello Internet. They once mentioned that they have 900K subs. Grey fully controlled HI, and it was way more popular than Cortex. If he wants to diversify so much abandoning project like this just doesn’t make sense. Also he has no basic decency to announce cancelation and left Tims hanging, for many of whom it was the podcast.

I've watched both Grey's and Haran's videos since their early years on YouTube, and I'd be curious to know what the story is behind the disappearance of their podcast. It seemed like an odd development to me in view of how engaged they both appeared to be with their audience. I know that Haran eventually posted a brief comment on Reddit acknowledging the hiatus, but it struck me as a strangely subdued way to announce…

I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management.

I would say in particular lots of these people started doing "community slacks/discords" and then they realized that being able to produce podcast episodes doesn't make you a good community manager.

There's been specific drama with Relay and people around that extended universe as well, so lots of podcast hosts in that space are basically done with fan interaction.

I'm being a bit glib but I totally get it. If you have the choice to just walk away from dealing with CM stuff then it's a pretty nice proposition.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

endisneigh wrote: post #209
dang wrote: post #207

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I think you're underestimating the ability of HN readers to figure things out. Perhaps that is the answer to both questions.

For what it’s worth I agree with the parent comment. This is the only forum I’ve ever seen where moderators are not clearly labeled as such.

But you never present how that’s a problem. You’d be succumbing to the ancient forum pastime of hypothetical rules/scenarios lawyering where you confuse the ability to invent a scenario (someone not knowing dang is a mod for 60seconds and that’s worth worrying about for unsaid reason) with the need to change the forum.

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Post by sodality2 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #152
ttt0 wrote: post #145

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>> one day around the election GoDaddy made a decision to cancel them > Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right? > Do you have more examples? The first big deplatforming case was probably Cloudflare pulling The Daily Stormer. This is what Cloudflare CEO said: > "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power." Seems…

Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.

He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet

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Post by rtpg »

simias wrote: post #143
graeme wrote: post #70

I follow CGP Grey’s stuff and it’s been interesting and instructive to see how he diversified. * His Youtube channel is his main platform * However, the money mostly comes from patreon subscribers, and you can also have videos delivered there * He also earns income from a podcast, Cortex * The Podcast has its own brand of sellable things, currently journals and Tshirts * He had a second podcast, hello internet, curre…

> However, the money mostly comes from patreon subscribers, and you can also have videos delivered there Did he break that down publicly or do you get your info from elsewhere? I've always been curious to know what a typical high profile youtuber income flow looks like, and how much they're really tied to Youtube.

The thing I've heard is "1,000 views = $1". I don't know how true that is anymore but it's my metric.

Mark Brown, of Game Maker's Toolkit, puts out vids on Youtube that get a couple hundred thousand views (1 or 2 vids a month). So he could theoretically get a couple hundred from those. But his Patreon following nets him a couple thousand a month ($11k!)

When you have niche content you can end up getting way more per subscriber if people feel your content is worth it.

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Post by imwillofficial »

marshmallow_12 wrote: post #175
imwillofficial wrote: post #146

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Thanks for the clarification! I disagree on youtube being very good at its job, however that is a very subjective assessment. I think as it stands now, you are correct, but I believe these sites will give rise to more decentralized video sharing infrastructure as people slowly see the need to control their own destinies.

What? through the medium of Google?

No, I was thinking more like peertube. https://joinpeertube.org/

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Post by rtpg »

simongr3dal wrote: post #17
g42gregory wrote: post #15

I did not even know that Linus had his own site. Fantastic. I won’t be watching his videos on Youtube anymore! Hopefully, everyone I watch will have their own websites, so that I don’t have to visit Youtube.

If only there was some kind of really simple syndication so I didn’t have to visit 40 different sites to check if my favorite video creators have released anything new.

This sort of dumb sarcasm is soooo annoying for a billion reasons:

- Every major website where RSS would be useful (except Facebook. Twitter needs RSS like we need the plague), _has it!_ RSS support is ubiquitous

- There are carbon-copy clones of google reader. I use one every day (well, twice a week cuz I don't depend on reading RSS). You can just subscribe

- For really tricky stuff, you can wire together some stuff with, like, Zapier. It's annoying but way easier than it would be 10 years ago (cuz even then loads of random stuff didn't have feeds)

This is the most annoying kind of nostalgia. Not because it's wishing for an old world that never existed, but because it's implying that the current world doesn't _still have all of this stuff_. At least whining about XMPP has some merit.

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Post by Zak »

walrus01 wrote: post #210

> Linus Sebastian Something to understand, for those who might have just seen some youtube videos of him being goofy, is that he's an actor . The guy on camera doing stupid stuff is a stage persona. It's an intentionally cultivated image and media persona to get as many video views as possible. I sort of see him as one possible aspect of the low/medium budget TV production stuff which is common in his home city, Vanc…

People watch videos largely for entertainment, even when the subject matter is a review of computer hardware or advice concerning technology. For pure informational value, a written format with occasional short illustrative video clips is usually more useful.

I think every successful youtuber has a cultivated stage persona because that's more entertaining than just watching an everyday person talk about a mechanical keyboard for 15 minutes.

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Post by roenxi »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #197
roenxi wrote: post #162

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> What I _have_ seen people get (correctly) called a transphobe for is the opinion "Transgender women should not be in women's sports because they are men." Arguing that women should be excluded from women's sport is untenable. The respectful position isn't "trans women are a special type of women where they get the pronoun but none of the privileges". It is "you're a woman".

I disagree. What about a situation where a cisgendered man prefers having sex with people that also have dicks? Typically, we would call this person gay, which we interpret as "men who have sex with men". However, this person would want to have sex with cis men and trans women, not because they're transphobic, but because their preference is based on the person's physical body. My point with the example is that there…

Playing sport is not some radical edge case, nor is there anything to think about. Women can compete in women's sport.

"Transgender women should not be in women's sports" is transphobic no matter what logic follows it. It is society not treating women as women. Adding a "because they are men" or not on the end doesn't change the level of transphobia much, the meaty part is the "no, I've decided you can't be treated as a women and you get no say" part.

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Post by Zak »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #213
regnerba wrote: post #129

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> Floatplane as explained by Linus doesn't make sense, you support a creator by getting videos a little earlier. You support creators by giving them money. In return for supporting a creator you get video content in return. Floatplane as a platform for the most part doesn't dictate what that content is other than it being in the format of a video. LTT themselves have actually been moving away from pushing videos earl…

> Floatplane as a platform for the most part doesn't dictate what that content is other than it being in the format of a video. Do they allow, say, porn, or white nationalist videos? I'm always curious exactly where platforms set the bounds.

Porn and hate speech are specifically proscribed in their TOS.

https://www.floatplane.com/legal/terms

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Post by crossroadsguy »

scrose wrote: post #23

I can’t help but wonder why services like Vimeo don’t come up more often when getting off of YouTube? It seems like Vimeo offers similar functionality already. Is there something about it that I’m missing / is it just not cool for content creators?

Lack of solid discovery and yes less audience.

But I would rather talk about the similarity between Vimeo and YouTube - they both are walled gardens. I would rather have many Vimeos that federate.

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