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The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Could anyone recommend comedic Russian novels or short stories? Edited to add the following: Thanks for the recommendations!

Watch Gaidai, Ryazanov or Danelia (who also did some great comedies, like Mimino), you won't get too wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Gaidai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldar_Ryazanov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgiy_Daneliya

Edit: probably not so short, just regular stories... so maybe not what you're looking for.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Soviets != Russia, yes the USSR was sort of a new iteration of The Russian Empire, but you can't call armenians, ukrainians, georgians and so on russians this simply wrong

There are infinitely less difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians than, for example, between those Americans who live in California and Texas.

There is an armed Russian Ukrainian armed conflict happening right now ...

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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post #48
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soviets != Russia, yes the USSR was sort of a new iteration of The Russian Empire, but you can't call armenians, ukrainians, georgians and so on russians this simply wrong

There are infinitely less difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians than, for example, between those Americans who live in California and Texas.

Ukraine has democracy, fair elections and also currently at war (hybrid war if you like) with Russia, so I wouldn't put it in that list.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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post #52
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are infinitely less difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians than, for example, between those Americans who live in California and Texas.

There is an armed Russian Ukrainian armed conflict happening right now ...

purely artificial and fueled by Russian dictatorship.

Oh, and there was an “insurrection” in US Capital in case you didn’t notice.

The only difference is that the first one has a very strong external support while the second one does not and, luckily, failed quickly.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Among the Russian films with a strong political innuendo I've seen, "Welcome, no trespassing" was the sharpest and one of the most enjoyable. It's about a scout camp where the the director oppresses the children with stupid formal procedures, patriotic ceremonies, and abuses of power. I could not understand why this film was allowed, since the camp is an obvious metaphor of the USSR. I'm also surprised one of the mos…

Production started during an era that was a slight relaxing of censorship in general in the USSR. Obviously any criticism of the Soviet system, law, government, policy, leaders, etc. was absolutely right out, but you do start to see hints of social criticism in that era. There are a rash of novels in the late 50s and 60s in that style.

In fact, just the year before, Krushchev had personally ordered the publication of One Day In the Life of Ivan Denisovich, which is also quite hard to believe got published in Soviet times, even with redactions. The leash was pulled short again not long after that!

Anyway, legend has it that Krushchev also got a preview of "Welcome, or No Trespassing" and liked it. So he ordered it immediately released. I don't know if that's true, but it certainly could be.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soviets != Russia, yes the USSR was sort of a new iteration of The Russian Empire, but you can't call armenians, ukrainians, georgians and so on russians this simply wrong

There are infinitely less difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians than, for example, between those Americans who live in California and Texas.

Californian and Texan accents might be mutually incomprehensible, but they' re not completely different languages like Ukrainian, Russian, and Belorussian.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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I’d be interested in pointers to Soviet equivalents of the James Bond books or films.

Try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Moments_of_Spring

Can't recommend highly enough, this is a defining movie.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are infinitely less difference between Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians than, for example, between those Americans who live in California and Texas.

Californian and Texan accents might be mutually incomprehensible, but they' re not completely different languages like Ukrainian, Russian, and Belorussian.

if you know one pf the three russian/ukraininan/belorus languages you will be able to understand 99% of what is said in the other two.

Source: I grew up in Ukraine

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