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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Why wouldn't you? It's becoming increasingly clear that you cannot trust your web presence (and by extension, your business) to one or two social media companies ... though that should have been obvious in hindsight.

And I don't want to hear anything about any startup 'disrupting' decentralized tech like the web, RSS (and by extension Podcasts), or email.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#72

Because they are finally learning that existing on someone else's platform sucks. Much better to get your own domain which is actually property registered to your name and can't be taken away from you because you offended some advertiser.

yeah, like so many ISVs build their software on top of Windows and slowly losing market share when Microsoft decided to get into their space like the Office suite. i remember using Lotus 123 on my dad's laptop. Lotus was the king at the time and Microsoft kill them slowly. if i'm not mistaking Microsoft with hold Win32 api or something that make Microsoft's own Office software run faster.

Reminds me of these articles.

http://www.paulgraham.com/road.html

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost...

> If you want to write desktop software now you do it on Microsoft’s terms, calling their APIs and working around their buggy OS.

> And if you manage to write something that takes off, you may find that you were merely doing market research for Microsoft.

I simply don't understand why anyone would ever choose to put themselves in such a disadvantageous position.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#73
post #66

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

> When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk. Being off of YouTube doesn’t make you immune to this. You can still be deplatformed by your host, domain registrar, payment processor, etc.

All of the examples you listed are easily recovered from and don’t cause a complete disconnect from your audience in the same way YouTube deplatforming does.

From Amazon sellers to YouTubers to high ranking apps to prominent social media profiles, I’m in awe of how much value sits at the whim of some platform which usually won’t even have a person to talk with on the other end.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#74

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

What "wrong" political views are those?

Curiously, virtually all "legal speech" bans and demonetization happen to be for opinions or content that disagree with whatever talking points the DNC and/or the CCP are pushing.

I know this will get down votes but that's literally the truth. Opposing the CCP is marginally safer but not at all when they encroach on DNC statements.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you own a site that has systemic issues with child pornography sharing and other illegal material, you probably deserve it.

4chan is a shady place, but it is definitely not a bastion of child porn. The owners do not allow anything like that.

I run a 4chan archive, fireden.net, I don't archive /b/ and my #1 reason I need to take down things is because of child porn, to the point that I honestly think about why i still run it anymore.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#76

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

Even if you keep up with what’s politically correct, your old content can become increasingly unfavorable. You can get railroaded for something you said 10 years ago that was seemingly alright at the time. I cringe at myself 10 years ago.

thankfully I never recorded my cod:black ops sessions :)

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#77

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

What "wrong" political views are those?

Apparently, in the case of Parler, believing that you should allow users to post any legal content without moderation. (I know they didn't lose their domain, but the effect of being denied hosting is functionally the same.)

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#78

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

What "wrong" political views are those?

Whichever the platform operator disapproves of.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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post #66

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

> When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk. Being off of YouTube doesn’t make you immune to this. You can still be deplatformed by your host, domain registrar, payment processor, etc.

Unlike YouTube, a business can replace many of these services transparently from the perspective of their customers.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

#80

Because they are finally learning that all it takes to destroy their business is an algorithm glitch, or having 'wrong' political views, or just falling on the wrong side of an overzealous moderator. When you use someone else's platform you are completely dependent on the owner of the platform, and being dependent on something you don't control is a huge business risk.

The same can be said for anyone working in the offline entertainment sector. People get blacklisted from Hollywood for upsetting powerful individuals (Weinstein destroyed a lot of careers this way, for a most recent example, before he was sent to prison.)

Generally speaking, any industry where your revenue relies on marketing, promotion, or access to exclusive collaboration and distribution networks is going to have this property.

If you've made it really big, you can try to mitigate risk by doing your own marketing, or owning your own share of the distribution channel. For all the B-list actors, though, the economics of that aren't very favourable.

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