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The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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any more suggestions would be most welcome

How about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbelievable_Adventures_of_Ita... ; screwball comedy about running all over Leningrad in search of a buried fortune.

I realised it wasn't your ordinary comedy when one of the early jokes involved landing an Aeroflot flight on a highway. There's a splendidly bizarre explosion/dream sequence bit in the middle. And a lion chase.

https://russianfilmhub.com/movies/unbelievable-adventures-of...

Anyway, much of Mosfilm is on Youtube.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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The “political incorrectness” angle is really an unnecessary and very stupid aside that tarnishes an otherwise decent piece:

> Nor could [Office Romance] be much less politically correct. One can only imagine what a modern HR-manager would make of Office Romance, of its “power-imbalances”, “problematic” attitudes and “inappropriate” behaviour. That said, the same HR-manager should at least pause to wonder what, in doing all we can to make such relationships shameful and unfeasible, we’re also doing to ourselves.

The correct answer of course is that any professional, HR or otherwise, prioritizes facts over nice stories in movies. And the facts are that many supervisor-subordinate relationships are exploitative, often start from illegal harassment, and in any event are bad for business. Putting concepts like power imbalances and inappropriate behavior in scare quotes is just creepy and indicates sexist contempt for victims of workplace sexual harassment.

Markowski is clearly working in his politics here (which are largely centered around hyperventilating about “cancel culture”), but even by the standards of the genre it is particularly gross to suggest that the only people concerned about bosses who sleep with their employees are the PC Prudes who run HR.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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any more suggestions would be most welcome

I’d be interested in pointers to Soviet equivalents of the James Bond books or films.

It doesn't seem to have been a big genre, probably because of the difficulty of talking about secret agents in a country where secrecy was brutally enforced and the KGB were deeply feared.

I can however reccomend the Italian bond knockoff genre, including the ridiculous OK Connery: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062078/?ref_=nm_knf_t1

Starring Neil Connery. Music by Ennio Morricone.

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Well, if you're into 'politically incorrect' movies, virtually anything before 1980 will fit the bill. You could start with Birth of Nation which celebrates the KKK. Then move on to the Jazz Singer which prominently features black face. Breakfast at Tiffany's is famous for Mickey Rooney's 'ching chong' routine. There's really no shortage.

Mickey. Mickey Rooney. Who when he was younger did a lot of movies as a character named "Andy Hardy." Andy Rooney "played" a curmudgeon on 60 Minutes.

Oops, I've corrected the comment now.

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you're into 'politically incorrect' movies, virtually anything before 1980 will fit the bill. You could start with Birth of Nation which celebrates the KKK. Then move on to the Jazz Singer which prominently features black face. Breakfast at Tiffany's is famous for Mickey Rooney's 'ching chong' routine. There's really no shortage.

I am guessing they are asking for more Russian media... weird to focus on the political correctness part.

You're probably right. It's 'political incorrectness' as a selling-point that irritates me. I don't know if that's weird, probably not worth debating

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any more suggestions would be most welcome

I’d be interested in pointers to Soviet equivalents of the James Bond books or films.

Not a spy movie but Eastern (as a Soviet Western) - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_Home_Among_Strangers

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any more suggestions would be most welcome

I’d be interested in pointers to Soviet equivalents of the James Bond books or films.

I believe you’ll like it: “Passion of Spies” (Шпионские страсти) 1967

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> What’s interesting about Afonya is its picture of Soviet life at a time when we were told all was grey, unsmiling misery there. Instead it’s a world with palpable similarities to the West: pop music, glamour photos, consumerism and (undeniably) a class-system. I had a similar feeling watching the 1969 hungarian movie "A tanú" ("The Witness")[0]. While the movie is about communist Hungary, it is interesting how some…

The Firemen's Ball (1967) is a czech comedy directed by Milos Forman, also worth a watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Firemen%27s_Ball

Re: The blissful political incorrectness of Soviet comedies

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One of my favorite movies of all time is Kin Dza Dza. It's a low budget comedy sci-fi movie with amazing ideas and a surreal aesthetic, and is quite funny and gets better with each watch. It's a subtle criticism of the soviet union in the era before its fall. You'll be saying "Kuuuu" for days after watching it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin-dza-dza!

Edit: just noticed a critic quoted on wikipedia called it "Mad Max meets Monty Python by way of Tarkovsky", which is a very accurate description.

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